should i turn off hibernation win10
I set up computers for other people. I set them up in a standard way. I've begun to turn off hibernation because it uses quite a bit of hard drive space. Doesn't matter with the old drives but with the smaller SSDS I now put in it could make a difference. I've never used hibernation myself. My market is mostly old individuals and newbies without much knowledge. Do you think turning off hibernation is a good policy with these users?
Thanks,
Al
Thanks,
Al
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Thanks for your good advice,
Alan
Alan
You are very welcome and I was happy to help.
Some thoughts on some comments:
"As that class of customers has no idea how to get the machine out of hibernation..." - press the power button. Too much asked for? :-)
"if you want a longer life for SSD also, then turn off hibernation" - I would like to present a little calculation. If we calculate 5 GBs of hibernation file (mine is 5 GB while my RAM is 12 GB) and have them use hibernate maybe once per day, then we have less than 2 TB written to the drive per year. The TBW values of small standard drives will be around 50-150 TBW. So let them keep that computer for let's say an eternity of full 10 years, that's about 20 TBW. You still have 30-130 TBW (depending on the drive) left. That's 8-36 GBs they may write to it - every day for that lifespan of 10 years! A lot for newbies or old people, most will not reach 8 even, for sure. Conclusion: that is not really an argument against using hibernation. Most fears "the ssd life is short" are from times, when SSDs where just new to the market and don't hold true any more.
Hibernation is good for those that keep many programs open and want to be able to preserve the state those are in while consuming no energy. You will need to judge if your customers want that. If you ask them, some will not even understand what you are talking about, I guess, so although it is a good feature, most people don't know it and don't use it.
"As that class of customers has no idea how to get the machine out of hibernation..." - press the power button. Too much asked for? :-)
"if you want a longer life for SSD also, then turn off hibernation" - I would like to present a little calculation. If we calculate 5 GBs of hibernation file (mine is 5 GB while my RAM is 12 GB) and have them use hibernate maybe once per day, then we have less than 2 TB written to the drive per year. The TBW values of small standard drives will be around 50-150 TBW. So let them keep that computer for let's say an eternity of full 10 years, that's about 20 TBW. You still have 30-130 TBW (depending on the drive) left. That's 8-36 GBs they may write to it - every day for that lifespan of 10 years! A lot for newbies or old people, most will not reach 8 even, for sure. Conclusion: that is not really an argument against using hibernation. Most fears "the ssd life is short" are from times, when SSDs where just new to the market and don't hold true any more.
Hibernation is good for those that keep many programs open and want to be able to preserve the state those are in while consuming no energy. You will need to judge if your customers want that. If you ask them, some will not even understand what you are talking about, I guess, so although it is a good feature, most people don't know it and don't use it.
@McKnife, thank you for your information. on my laptop, I change that mode time to time depend on my battery situation.
also this was the article that I referred to:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-hibernate-ssd-warranty-purposes/
also this was the article that I referred to:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-hibernate-ssd-warranty-purposes/
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Hello McKnife and thanks for joining the discussion. This is an associated question about hibernating.
I've been having problems where my computer doesn't stay asleep. I've turned off everything I can in bios, wake timers, etc. (Might be a hardware problem.) Earlier I had a problem where when my computer came out of sleep it hung. (Since going from a Dell Optiplex 9010 to a Dell Optiplex XE2 the hang problem went away but it still doesn't stay in sleep mode for long.
I began to either just shut it down at night. With SSDs the shutdown and boot times aren't long and I assume it's safer to shutdown because there's less of a chance of getting hacked if the computer is all the way off more of the time. I've also set up my browsers to bring up the same tabs and windows when they are restarted.
If I use hibernation,
1. Might I still have the problem of it coming out of hibernation for no good reason?
2. Is there still a greater exposure to getting hacked? Can something come in from the Internet at night and bring the computer out of hibernation?
3. I just realized that I can probably eliminate any chance of that by simply removing the ethernet cord from the back no matter what I do, leave it on all the time, put it to sleep or into hibernation. Do you agree?
Thanks,
Al
I've been having problems where my computer doesn't stay asleep. I've turned off everything I can in bios, wake timers, etc. (Might be a hardware problem.) Earlier I had a problem where when my computer came out of sleep it hung. (Since going from a Dell Optiplex 9010 to a Dell Optiplex XE2 the hang problem went away but it still doesn't stay in sleep mode for long.
I began to either just shut it down at night. With SSDs the shutdown and boot times aren't long and I assume it's safer to shutdown because there's less of a chance of getting hacked if the computer is all the way off more of the time. I've also set up my browsers to bring up the same tabs and windows when they are restarted.
If I use hibernation,
1. Might I still have the problem of it coming out of hibernation for no good reason?
2. Is there still a greater exposure to getting hacked? Can something come in from the Internet at night and bring the computer out of hibernation?
3. I just realized that I can probably eliminate any chance of that by simply removing the ethernet cord from the back no matter what I do, leave it on all the time, put it to sleep or into hibernation. Do you agree?
Thanks,
Al
Alan, please ask a related question since this are even separate aspects. I will join that new question. Make it in the Microsoft OS area or win10.
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McKnife,
Just posted the following, "win10 should i turn hibernation on?"
Thanks,
Al
Just posted the following, "win10 should i turn hibernation on?"
Thanks,
Al
SSDs can absorb a limited number of “writes” - The more writes, the more destabilized the drive.