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Motherboard with both IDE and ACHI options

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I need to replace an aging Windows 7 Pro PC and need to image the system onto new hardware so I don't have to reinstall everything . Most New motherboards don't seem to have the IDE option only AHCI which causes the drive to reboot in a loop when attached to new hardware.

The motherboard would most likely be an Asus H110M-PlUS or H110M-A/M.2. The older H110M boards used to but the newer ones which now support DDR4 don't seem to. Are there any other boards that have this option?

Also is there a way getting the drive to boot. like I say I am desperate not to have to reinstall everything

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RaminTechnical Advisor
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Also it's good idea to try Paragon Adaptive Restore, it can Migrate your Windows system to a different hardware platform.  it works perfect on Dissimilar Hardware.
https://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/adaptiverestore/

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I usually use macrium reflect, Take an image of the old system, boot with the Macrim boot disk on the new. Restore to the new drive, restart
and it is at this point where it fails to boot if it is not set to Ide in the bios.
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Check the BIOS, if Boot mode is set to UEFI try to change it to Legacy, and retest.
noxchoIT Product Manager
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The new BIOS can be different to one you have on old machine. If it is not set to UEFI mode on new machine but still the start fails - then use P2P Adjust OS from Paragon boot CD.

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Will have a look for that option when I get the PC. Thanks
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i have used the Paragon Adaptive restore - and it works well

but - why are you afraid of doing a fresh install?
i know it takes time - but it is by far the best option, and will also allow you to install windows 10 fresh
i'v done it hundreds of times, and its very rare i encountered a problem - while with imaging you take all the old problems with you
just install all the drivers when windows is installed first
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Hi,

I agree with nobus. Fresh is best. You get rid of all the built-up gunk and know for sure what is installed. If you image and have problems you won't know if it's your hardware being dodgy or you image. It doesn't take that long and drivers are far, far less painful than XP. Run ninite to install base apps and you're done.

Just a thought...

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as a follow up - how lo,ng has this setup been running ?  were there any problems before?
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I know why you prefer image --- I have an image that takes 20 minutes from start to finish and everything is loaded -- when you prepare the image it must be stripped of hardware dependency and profiles remove, its best to prepair the image from ms command line using the waik tools. Now new bios do give option of either SATA ACHI or legacy if no sata choose legacy. The image i made i have run it on laptops, desktops new bios and old bios you may have missed a step when you make the image.

Another god tool is ghost

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Setup has been running since 2013. Due to the amount of software that needs configuring and also data, I feel it is easier for me, and also to get client up and running faster to do it this way.

After a lot of time and messing around I have managed to achieve the result I wanted

On the old system change the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers back to standard Microsoft
Take a full system Image using macrium reflect to an external drive
Boot the new system with Macrium boot disk, restore the backup from the Ext drive first then run macrium ReDeploy and select
the drivers off the motherboard disk and reboot. Now starts Windows where you can finish everything off.
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With Paragon P2P Adjust OS it would be a work for 15 mins. However I think you wanted to learn something new :)

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Not necessarily.  To be be honest I am more familiar with macrium products and this was pretty quick once I had taken and restored the backup
and found out how to use the redploy feature. There would have been more of a learning curve with the Paragon.

thanks again

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Everything Working fine apart from the unsupported processor messsage that keeps popping Up in Windows 7. I have removed the two updates KB4015546 and KB4015549 which seem to case the issue but after the next reboot it seems to reinstall them.

Is there a Permanent solution to this problem.

thanks
noxchoIT Product Manager
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If the restore points are there - roll back the Windows to the state before you downloaded the updates. Or like here: http://www.computerstepbystep.com/windows-7-7-windows-update-files.html

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It keeps coming back. Didn't try the system restore as it would have downloaded the updates again anyway.

Thanks again.
noxchoIT Product Manager
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But you can disable installing updates once you restore from restore point.
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you can even install some updates manually - or disable some

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I think it is the the server (Sbs 2011) that is pusing the same updates on the PC. Is it possible to stop that PC receiving upates automatically
from the server and then I can run them manually and exclude the 2 updates in question.

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If you use group policy to install the updates then change it.

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