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I think Microsoft is getting their Versions and Builds confused. Winver vary clearly states Version 1607 Build 14393 but when you run the upgrade assistant it says your are not running the most current Version (14393).

So isn't a build withing a version? The version is major and the build is minor? So what version and build is the Creators update?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Current version is Version 1607 Build 14393.969.

Are you are .969?   That could be your issue.

Creator Update may be out today or tomorrow and should be Version 15000+
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According to Winver I am at Version 1607 Build 14393.693 as stated above but when I use the upgrade advisor it tells I am on an old "Version" of 14393. Winver states Version 1607 but the upgrade advisor states Version 14393 (which is the current build not version).

The Creator Upgrade is available. That is why it says 14393 is old. The newest is build 15063. It doesn't state the Version but rumor has it as being 1703. It has been downloaded but is sitting at 0% complete
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Sub version 969 has been out for a month, and you should be there (not 693) and that is part of the confusion here.

Now, Today is Patch Tuesday and I am not sure what Production will show.

My Insider Version IS 1703 15063 and I have been there for a week or so on a spare machine.

I am not sure what the exact number will be today, and it may take a long while (a day or two) with millions downloading it.
LockDown32Owner
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The confusion is Microsoft interchanging the words Version and Build when they shouldn't be.

For what it is worth the Creator Update is available via the Update Advisor (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10) and yields Version 1703, Build 15063.138

Took maybe 3 hours but I have 150Mbps down and am using a SSD. Way too early to tell everything that might happen but it did break my Office 2016 activation and I had to re-activate it.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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I do not (yet) have Office 2016 on my Insider Machine so cannot answer that.

Anywhere I look Version and Build are used consistently by Microsoft but others often confuse them.

What until all is done. Updates have not broken Office for me but I am going to wait for the restart message and not force it. The restart itself could take an hour. Do not push things.
LockDown32Owner
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There is no confusion. The Windows Upgrade Assistant refers to 14393 as a Version and it is actually a Build. Screen shot is attached. Take a look at it for yourself.

   Updates have not broken Office in the past but there is no mistake it did this time. Nothing was forced. It rebooted maybe 4 times and finally went back to the normal login screen. I certainly hope you don't get in a hurry and reboot prematurely because that is known to cause severe issues.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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It may be that the Creator version is going back to any version / build it finds.

Nonetheless, I have answered your question about Version / Build prior to today's version if / when out. You were on an old build at the point you tried.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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So today's Patch Tuesday is out.

Version  1607

OS Build 14393

Sub Build  1066

As exactly reported by System About

No confusion here.

If you are running OS Build 15,000 whatever, you must have signed up as an Insider because Insider build 15,000 whatever is not yet out in production. I do have it running on a spare machine.

Also, Office 2016 did NOT de-activate. Remains activated and working fine.
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The current version is the creator's version which John has as insider version. It's been only a few days since it became officially the latest, so winver will tell you 1703.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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OK - Update. My X1 Laptop is now at the newest version of Windows 10.

According to Winver:

Version: 1703
OS Build: 15063
Sub Build: 138

So there continues to be no confusion. Microsoft is using a consistent convention.

They may, like I did above, use lower case version generically.

But in all formal displays, it is entirely consistent.
LockDown32Owner
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Just like I stated:

The answer:

1) The Version is the major. The Build is the Minor. (Microsoft was referring to them incorrectly in the Upgrade Advisor)
2) The Creator Update is Version 1703 Build 15063.138
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Your question said there was confusion and there is not any. Microsoft formally posts this information the same way through all recent versions
LockDown32Owner
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The confusion is very clear. Microsoft erroneously using a "Version" when they should have used "Build". My screen shot clearly points that out. Please take another look at my screen shot. It is very clear.
LockDown32Owner
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When they run the update assistant they will now know that it is incorrect and to ignore it. They will now also know the exact Version and Build they should see after running the Creator Upgrade.

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