F8 to last known good configuration of system
F8 to last known good configuration of system. When that action is taken what should the pc owner see visually after selecting that action?
Windows 7.
Windows 7.
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When you press f8 and select last known good configuration and Hit Enter, Windows restore will activate and take the system to the last restore point created Either by manual or by system, Windows starts normally (but with some delay) and when it finish loading everything, you can see this message in Windows desktop,
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The above message was not seen. Windows restore did not activate.
(I tried System Restore 5 times and it failed because it could not activate "a" file. So I did the F8 > last known good configuration)
It went to the login screen where I entered user name and password and then it went to the desktop like normal.
(I tried System Restore 5 times and it failed because it could not activate "a" file. So I did the F8 > last known good configuration)
It went to the login screen where I entered user name and password and then it went to the desktop like normal.
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nick - is this the same pc where you cannot run system restore?
the lenovo P90M ?
did you run the ram and disk diagnostics yet?
the lenovo P90M ?
did you run the ram and disk diagnostics yet?
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nobus: same pc but if that is from a boot disc created from another pc or backed up data, no I have not. I'll have to go back and find ram - disc diagnostics above.
Yes same pc that had a fairly significant black screen event on Monday:
black screen with very brief glimpses of narrow strips of screen and I just barely got the chance to click start on one glimpse and shutdown on another. The system did not shut down itself, fans gained speed, noisy or loud enough to be heard, I waited 10 minutes, then turned it off manually. Next day another black screen, not fast but again requiring manual shutoff.
I did get a screen to choose "forced shutdown" or cancel. Once I chose forced, the next cancel to allow "some" program to close but I never knew what program because that screen never stayed open long enough to see the message.
Monday to Friday the time from login password to desktop was 35 seconds. Today back to normal 8 seconds.
Clearly 35 seconds instead of 8 was an issue of some kind.
I'm going to try the simple solutions to system restore: the other 2 dates I did not try, and the hidden file fix.
As well as ID: 42123533
Then monitor the boot to desktop times day by day.
Yes same pc that had a fairly significant black screen event on Monday:
black screen with very brief glimpses of narrow strips of screen and I just barely got the chance to click start on one glimpse and shutdown on another. The system did not shut down itself, fans gained speed, noisy or loud enough to be heard, I waited 10 minutes, then turned it off manually. Next day another black screen, not fast but again requiring manual shutoff.
I did get a screen to choose "forced shutdown" or cancel. Once I chose forced, the next cancel to allow "some" program to close but I never knew what program because that screen never stayed open long enough to see the message.
Monday to Friday the time from login password to desktop was 35 seconds. Today back to normal 8 seconds.
Clearly 35 seconds instead of 8 was an issue of some kind.
I'm going to try the simple solutions to system restore: the other 2 dates I did not try, and the hidden file fix.
As well as ID: 42123533
Then monitor the boot to desktop times day by day.
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ID: 42123533
I had an open question about system restore and closed it I think.
So from the above comment > 42123533, on my system at the bottom there is a choice to return the Lenovo hard drive to it's factory condition, as well as a memory tool.
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So, I tried the other two system restore points before May 1. Both failed with the same error number. Ending in 5. I tried the hidden file fix and encountered a problem so I did not proceed.
1. Click Start then Computer. On the Tools menu Then or Organize Folder Options. On the View tab, click “Show hidden files and folders”.
Clear the Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) check box. Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm the change.
Click OK. Right-click the System Volume Information folder in the root folder, and then click Properties. If the Read-only attributes is checked, un-check it and click, OK Now try creating a restore point.
............I did not see System Volume Information folder in root folder and start > search found neither one of them so I stopped there.
So I tried a system restore per Ramin's method. Same result and it failed. But for a different reason. See the image.
I used the automatic restore point of April 20th. Look at image two and you see that for restore point April 25th it was going to remove Java update. Java is the file that prevented the system restore through F8.
I found another clue. A program that has failed to open since at least Monday was Youtube Movie Maker. It fails to open and gives an APPCRASH error. I decided to try to use Windows MM and it fails to open. There is a link to the system requirements. I have all of them. One of them mentions graphics. But, I have been watching live horse racing and other videos with no issues but now two movie makers fail to open. That might be driver related.
So, this Java file is preventing a system restore. And every time I try a system restore it is adding a date and these 4 lonely dates before May 1st which are April 11-12-20-25 may be lost forever and gone from the list the more times I try. Then I may have no restore points before the black screen day of May 1.
I had an open question about system restore and closed it I think.
So from the above comment > 42123533, on my system at the bottom there is a choice to return the Lenovo hard drive to it's factory condition, as well as a memory tool.
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So, I tried the other two system restore points before May 1. Both failed with the same error number. Ending in 5. I tried the hidden file fix and encountered a problem so I did not proceed.
1. Click Start then Computer. On the Tools menu Then or Organize Folder Options. On the View tab, click “Show hidden files and folders”.
Clear the Hide protected operating system files (Recommended) check box. Click Yes when you are prompted to confirm the change.
Click OK. Right-click the System Volume Information folder in the root folder, and then click Properties. If the Read-only attributes is checked, un-check it and click, OK Now try creating a restore point.
............I did not see System Volume Information folder in root folder and start > search found neither one of them so I stopped there.
So I tried a system restore per Ramin's method. Same result and it failed. But for a different reason. See the image.
I used the automatic restore point of April 20th. Look at image two and you see that for restore point April 25th it was going to remove Java update. Java is the file that prevented the system restore through F8.
I found another clue. A program that has failed to open since at least Monday was Youtube Movie Maker. It fails to open and gives an APPCRASH error. I decided to try to use Windows MM and it fails to open. There is a link to the system requirements. I have all of them. One of them mentions graphics. But, I have been watching live horse racing and other videos with no issues but now two movie makers fail to open. That might be driver related.
So, this Java file is preventing a system restore. And every time I try a system restore it is adding a date and these 4 lonely dates before May 1st which are April 11-12-20-25 may be lost forever and gone from the list the more times I try. Then I may have no restore points before the black screen day of May 1.
did you uninstall the Youtube Movie Maker firsyt - before installing the windows one?
Are you sure your Windows is Genuine ?
Try this article about Error 0x80070003 windows 7
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-B-and-G-Series-Notebooks/Windows-Update-Error-0x80070003-windows-7/m-p/3358479#M55365
Follow this Article from Microsoft Support,
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/973455/windows-backup-or-restore-errors-0x80070001,-0x81000037,-or-0x80070003
Try this article about Error 0x80070003 windows 7
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-B-and-G-Series-Notebooks/Windows-Update-Error-0x80070003-windows-7/m-p/3358479#M55365
Follow this Article from Microsoft Support,
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/973455/windows-backup-or-restore-errors-0x80070001,-0x81000037,-or-0x80070003
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nobus:
did you run the ram and disk diagnostics yet?
..................where did you refer to that?
As far as WMM (which is part of Windows Live Essentials) I removed Windows Live Essentials by mistake by listening to others on this forum. Fortunately I was able to get it back by following instructions in a simpler explanation on another site. That was surely before January 2017. I never tried WMM and in January I tried YT Movie Maker and liked the ease of use. It worked fine up to the week of April 24. I tried it last week and it would not open. I tried WMM last night for the first time ever and it would not open.
As far as Windows 7 this system was pre-owned by someone who always buys top of the line business systems for personal use. In most cases buying a used system from them can be better than buying a new one off the shelf. The only thing I did not get with this one was Windows 10 and of course the system was about 5 years old. It had far more ram that I would have been able to get in a new system.
The chances of this not being genuine Windows 7 is near 0%.
Every time I try a system restore it does boot back itself and from the password to the desktop does take awhile over 30 seconds. I was unable to time it today so later I'll shut down and reboot and see the time. It is is 8 seconds password to desktop that is back to normal.
As far as the new error related to Java, I can remove Java from the system and then re-try the system restore from F8.
Java can always be re-acquired = ?? The other error that ends in the number 5 it does not show the name of the file it just says it can not access "a" file.
Also that yellow exclamation point. That could have been there for years. Who knows for sure. I never looked in the device manager until last week.
did you run the ram and disk diagnostics yet?
..................where did you refer to that?
As far as WMM (which is part of Windows Live Essentials) I removed Windows Live Essentials by mistake by listening to others on this forum. Fortunately I was able to get it back by following instructions in a simpler explanation on another site. That was surely before January 2017. I never tried WMM and in January I tried YT Movie Maker and liked the ease of use. It worked fine up to the week of April 24. I tried it last week and it would not open. I tried WMM last night for the first time ever and it would not open.
As far as Windows 7 this system was pre-owned by someone who always buys top of the line business systems for personal use. In most cases buying a used system from them can be better than buying a new one off the shelf. The only thing I did not get with this one was Windows 10 and of course the system was about 5 years old. It had far more ram that I would have been able to get in a new system.
The chances of this not being genuine Windows 7 is near 0%.
Every time I try a system restore it does boot back itself and from the password to the desktop does take awhile over 30 seconds. I was unable to time it today so later I'll shut down and reboot and see the time. It is is 8 seconds password to desktop that is back to normal.
As far as the new error related to Java, I can remove Java from the system and then re-try the system restore from F8.
Java can always be re-acquired = ?? The other error that ends in the number 5 it does not show the name of the file it just says it can not access "a" file.
Also that yellow exclamation point. That could have been there for years. Who knows for sure. I never looked in the device manager until last week.
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I removed Java and went back to F8 for another System Restore attempt. It failed again with the same error number 0x80070005. This time is said that an anti virus program might be the issue. I disabled Trend Micro and restarted and F8 and system restore and it failed again. And I had lost two of the pre May 1st restore points. I had 4 (April 11-12-20-25) and now only 20-25. So, as more days go by I'll eventually lose April 20 and 25 and have none before the big black screen event day of May 1st.
That is the day that the black screen happened and if it is driver related there will be no restore points before that date.
That is the day that the black screen happened and if it is driver related there will be no restore points before that date.
>> did you run the ram and disk diagnostics yet?
..................where did you refer to that? << in your previous Q, i assume it's the same pc - is it not?
..................where did you refer to that? << in your previous Q, i assume it's the same pc - is it not?
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I will try last known good configuration one more time and hope for the "visual" message I'm supposed to see, while in a pc repair shop and then close this question.
This system appears to have been repaired at a cost of only $29 so I will not try a "last known good configuration" and close this question once I know what they found. It;s either a dead system or likely driver software.
This system appears to have been repaired at a cost of only $29 so I will not try a "last known good configuration" and close this question once I know what they found. It;s either a dead system or likely driver software.
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This thread was about last known good configuration and it was not achieved before the system was taken to the repair shop. They found corrupt drivers and got non currupted ones from Lenovo site. Repair cost was $29. On the other thread alot more than one suggestion was made so I chose to let them diagnose the problem which they do for free. This question will be closed and points split in some way based on quality and quantity and useful information for the future.
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I replied to some questions that were asked.
Thank you Nick, I was very pleased to help you.