Andrea Edwards
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Hi
I know this is not maths and science but I've asked tonnes of maths and science questions on here and got better answers than maths forums. I know this is pushing my luck asking a grammar question in the this topic but I have proposed this topic.
So the question. If my boyfriend and I went shopping the grammar is 'boyfriend and I' not 'boyfriend and me'. If a cake was shared between me and my boyfriend the grammar is 'my boyfriend and me' and not my boyfriend and me. The current trend seems to be to say 'and I' regardless as aren't confident in their grammar so they say 'and I' as a catch all as they know it is a common mistake. But is there a rule when you use the word myself (I know you don't start a sentence with but)? For example, I dragged myself to the gym. Would it be 'I dragged my boyfriend and myself go to the gym' or is it 'I dragged my boyfriend and me go the the gym?'
I know it's not a crucial topic but it is bugging me as I did used to proofread and I can't see this in any of my grammar books.
I'm sorry if I have misused this topic and I hope the moderators don't get too annoyed but the description does say that ,although the topic is Maths and Science, questions are asked on other subjects like biology. This suggests biology isn't a science which is quite brave to say as biologists don't like this, but biology is information-based and not axiomatic like physics or maths. If biology is a science because it is based on experiments and observation and then so is psychology. So following Experts Exchange's inference that logic biology isn't a science, neither is grammar :) I hope this doesn't start a debate about biology as a science as I also used to be a biomedical researcher too and I've never done a biological proof. QED :).
That has now given me another question. This forum is ExpertsExchange so it is a forum for experts making it Experts' Exchange but if this forum has an opinion where does that possessive go? For example, 'Expert's Exchange's policy is....' Is that correct? Gosh now another one, if you have an ellipsis inside quotation marks and then a full stop what do you do? The full stop goes inside the quotes. Do you have a space between the ellipsis and the full stop so you can tell one from the other.
Thanks for any help and I hope I don't get a telling off :)
I know this is not maths and science but I've asked tonnes of maths and science questions on here and got better answers than maths forums. I know this is pushing my luck asking a grammar question in the this topic but I have proposed this topic.
So the question. If my boyfriend and I went shopping the grammar is 'boyfriend and I' not 'boyfriend and me'. If a cake was shared between me and my boyfriend the grammar is 'my boyfriend and me' and not my boyfriend and me. The current trend seems to be to say 'and I' regardless as aren't confident in their grammar so they say 'and I' as a catch all as they know it is a common mistake. But is there a rule when you use the word myself (I know you don't start a sentence with but)? For example, I dragged myself to the gym. Would it be 'I dragged my boyfriend and myself go to the gym' or is it 'I dragged my boyfriend and me go the the gym?'
I know it's not a crucial topic but it is bugging me as I did used to proofread and I can't see this in any of my grammar books.
I'm sorry if I have misused this topic and I hope the moderators don't get too annoyed but the description does say that ,although the topic is Maths and Science, questions are asked on other subjects like biology. This suggests biology isn't a science which is quite brave to say as biologists don't like this, but biology is information-based and not axiomatic like physics or maths. If biology is a science because it is based on experiments and observation and then so is psychology. So following Experts Exchange's inference that logic biology isn't a science, neither is grammar :) I hope this doesn't start a debate about biology as a science as I also used to be a biomedical researcher too and I've never done a biological proof. QED :).
That has now given me another question. This forum is ExpertsExchange so it is a forum for experts making it Experts' Exchange but if this forum has an opinion where does that possessive go? For example, 'Expert's Exchange's policy is....' Is that correct? Gosh now another one, if you have an ellipsis inside quotation marks and then a full stop what do you do? The full stop goes inside the quotes. Do you have a space between the ellipsis and the full stop so you can tell one from the other.
Thanks for any help and I hope I don't get a telling off :)
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the beginning of the question i somewhat confusing:
of course, me and myself are both pronouns. you use myself when you are the object of the action you are carrying out
so, correctly, since YOU are doing the dragging, :
however, in your boyfriend is doing the dragging:
If my boyfriend and I went shopping the grammar is 'boyfriend and I' not 'boyfriend and me'. If a cake was shared between me and my boyfriend the grammar is 'my boyfriend and me' and not my boyfriend and me.
of course, me and myself are both pronouns. you use myself when you are the object of the action you are carrying out
so, correctly, since YOU are doing the dragging, :
I dragged my boyfriend and myself to the gym
however, in your boyfriend is doing the dragging:
my boyfriend dragged me and himself to the gym
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thanks for your help
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I dragged my boyfriend and myself to the gym or
I dragged my boyfriend and me to the gym
If I left out 'my boyfriend' it would be 'I dragged myself to the gym'
Hope that is clearer