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Best memory speed evaluation in Over clocking Memory on MSI AMD Motherboard

I posted some of this in MSI forum but no one has taken up the discussion.
Essentially MSI has their own application, MSI Command Center, that gives you information about how your system is running. The question is whether the MSI application is the best test of their hardware. Specifically I am interested in whether the MSI application is the best test of the memory or whether the standard applications like CPU-Z, User Benchmark   is the real world test.

I used  quotes to set off specifics of the hardware since this is essentially a question of which application provides the best indication of memory speed rather than specific hardware or BIOS settings. In theory, the memory could run at 3000 MHz on this motherboard with the right timing.

I realize that overclocking, OC, is essentially a crap shoot so happy that my hardware is working as well as it does. I am confused that there is not a consensus among the applications on what speed my memory is running.


Best Speeds for MSI Command Center - 2800 MHz
Getting this result was quite difficult as most setting would either not boot or would show as  2133 MHz in MSI Command Center & CPU-Z, User Benchmark.
MSI BIOS Try IT (16-18-18-18-38) without XMP: 2800 MHz  according to the MSI Command Center.

Other variations including XMP & auto don't seem to work at all or show as 2133 MHz in MSI Command Center. Prior to upgrading BIOS from A.10 to A.50, the best I was able to accomplish was 2667 MHz in MSI Command Center.

Memtest86 USB boot - memory runs at 2998 MHz (16-18-18-38) DDR4 XMP with 0 errors for 1 full run.[/b]
Is this a good test the current BIOS?

CPU-Z the memory shows as 1399.2 MHz (1T CR).
If this was 2T for CR it would correlate with 2800 MHz. Is this software wrong?

User Benchmark shows 1400 MHz.

What's the best scenario, pleasing MSI Command Center with 2800 MHz or CPU-Z with 2133 MHz?

Memory is not on their compatibility list but I tried a Corsair version that was with no better results. They do support the 2800 MHz version, THRD416G2800HC16CDC01, which is probably why I can OC to 2800 MHz
Team T-Force Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model THRD416G3000HC16CDC01
DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000)
Timing 16-18-18-38
CAS Latency 16
Voltage 1.35V

Board:  MSI - B350M PRO-VDH (MS-7A38) - Supports DDR4-3200+(OC) Memory
BIOS: E7A38AMS.A5O
VGA: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB
PSU: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze
CPU:  AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz
MEM: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
HDD/SSD: MyDigitalSSD - BPX 512GB M.2-2280 SSD
Cooler: None
Keyboard/Mouse: Dell KM632 wireless
OC: 3400.0MHz, Ratio 32.00 (default)
DRAM frequency: 2666 MHz
DRAM voltage 1.3500
OC Genie 4 - Off
OS: Windows 10 64bit Professional
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Thanks Steve
I have some ASUS board as well as some MSI, but have only overclocked the ASUS. Their software, I feel is the best for their hardware as well.
I appreciate the input