Transition from PC to MAC?

I have been using the Windows operating system since the 90s. I have never owned a MAC before. Should I transition from PC to MAC? I don't game on the PC. However, I do use my PC for music creation, video production and audio editing.
Brett LarsonAsked:
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arnoldCommented:
Here is the though, the applications you used to create/edit audio, video....
Depending on your need a transition may require you to purchase application to perform your .........

Only you can answer the question you posed.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I agree that only you (Author) can answer this question. Die hard Apple fans continue to like MAC computers and indeed they work well. Many people are finding Windows 10 Pro to fit their needs in a very flexible fashion. So you need to determine what you most wish to run and whether you yourself would prefer to use a MAC computer.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Die hard Apple fans continue to like MAC computers and indeed they work well. Even when they use outdated technology or have design issues. You get more bang for the buck using a standard PC over purchasing a MAC and can upgrade your hardware as time and money desires.  I would run Linux rather than use OSX (they are basically the same roots)

PC's don't have the 'cool' or 'hip' factor that MAC's do.

Mac Pro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Pro#Specifications
Top CPu released Q3 2013 https://ark.intel.com/products/75780/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1650-v2-12M-Cache-3_50-GHz

The MacBook Pro has been upgraded this year, note that ram and hard drive are soldered into the motherboard and not upgradable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro

I'm not sure whether or not Apple has rectified the hinge design fault (screws for the hinge on the sides of the display frame. )

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serialbandCommented:
Are you a technical person?  Do you have trouble with Windows?  If you do, maybe a Mac will be better.  What software do you use?

If you are technically savvy enough, then stick with Windows and keep your software.  Again, what software do you use?  If it doesn't exist on the Mac, you may not want to switch.  You'll have to find analogous software that you'll need to learn again.

Macs do come with GarageBand to do Music Creation and audio Editing for free, but it may not be as "complete" as tools like MixCraft.  Macs come with iMovie, but that's also a simpler set for making videos.  It's not as complete as Adobe Premier or other tools.  Both are enough for the home user and designed for the home user, but if you need professional tools you'll have to spend money.
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RaminTechnical AdvisorCommented:
Should I transition from PC to MAC?

If you are a normal PC user” then switching to Mac would involve some relearning,  If you were starting from scratch, you’d have nothing to lose but now you have to renew all your software and knowledge.

The switching costs include finding new programs to replace and learn how to use then efficiently and importing your old data into your new system. This can prevent businesses from switching, and it can make life difficult.

you are a Windows experienced user and it cost you a lot of time and money,  but as noted above if your are ready you can start from beginning.
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fred hakimRetired ITCommented:
Homework, homework, homework.  Your PC gets used for stuff that you need to do.  List it all, then research how that could be accomplished on a MAC.  Include checking if your current software packages are available, if you can transition the license,  check your products forums, to see what kind of issues/limitations might exist in the MAC version.  

To me the basic advantage of a MAC, other than their "cool" factor, is the hardware and software available is strictly managed by Apple's certification process.  This means less chance of issues operating the PC with the certified products.  Fewer options to tinker -- Translation you operate pretty much the way Apple decides.  

The certification process also means your access to new products will be delayed on a MAC.  This is especially true for hardware and software, not invented by Apple.   As others mentioned above their hardware is not usually up to date and not always as easy to upgrade as PC owner is accustomed to.   The same goes for repairs!  I tell all my customers with Apple products to buy the service plans from Apple and keep them up to date.  Its not that I can't fix many of them, its just that its such a pain -- they do all sorts of tricks to make repairs difficult and in some cases impossible with out factory resources.   If you don't have a service contract and you need service from Apple, it will be expensive.   They wanted $780 to replace a motherboard for one of my customers, after a very minor liquid spill.  I got it done for $450, but the same issue on a PC would have cost less than $200.  

Another consideration is Freeware and shareware.  If you use those, prepare to pay in most cases for replacement products.  Again due to the certification issue less freeware is available on the Apple store.  

Apple products are great for people willing to live in Apples strictly controlled world.  It works reliably has few operational problems and, as long as you are willing to live with your hardware as is, can be a productive environment.   I suggest it often for folks not tech savvy.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Yes. And on the other hand the more open Windows environment means more good software. I like that part a lot
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arnoldCommented:
John, more software options, does not make it better, or more advantageous.
As less options does not make worse, disadvantageous.

The difficulty the author has is lack of access to the software to test before getting the other system.
When going from one to the other the existing is still there..

See if you have the option, opportunity, access to a setup HW and software that you've considered or seen used by others in your field.....

This way you can try....
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Much of the business software I run has no MAC counterpart which (more or less) what I meant here
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serialbandCommented:
Most of Windows software is junk.  There are really only a few good mainstay packages that most people already use and many of those have versions on the Mac or some analog.  There really are only a handful of packages that are Unique to each system that you can't really convert.

There are plenty more open software on the Mac than most Windows people realize.  They're just not familiar with them.  There are also many packages that exist on both systems.  It really depends on what software you use.  I also run many Windows utilities on the Mac, without running a VM.  It's just that you need some technical knowledge to get them working correctly.  There are a few items that just won't work on a Mac, but those can still run in a Virtual Machine.  Unfortunately, much of those are US "business" software from vendors that refuse to make Mac versions, partly because the other businesses aren't using Macs so you're not going to find compatible.  That is starting to change a little bit, but the big accounting packages are still on Windows.

@Bret-Larson
Please answer what software packages you use so that we may better direct you.  Without much input on what software you use, I would recommend that you stay with Windows, based on the fact that you've never used a Mac.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Most of Windows software is junk.    That is rubbish pure and simple.

Office is NOT junk. Adobe is NOT junk. VMware is NOT junk. WinZip is NOT junk. Bomb-proof NCP is NOT junk.

You should read and get educated before posting rubbish.
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arnoldCommented:
the context of the question guides the comments.

Info to add to serialband's request. Current specs of your windows system. And whether you have looked at systems you are considering.
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serialbandCommented:
@thinkpads_user
Those software you list are mainstays.  You seem to only run a limited set of business software and have obviously never explored other software, as there are multitudes of other software out there for business that aren't the standard office business fare.  I've had to install many of those and find alternatives to replace paid programs, due to certain client's(non-profit, edu, etc..) needs and budgetary constraints.  Windows has a lot more software offerings out there and they are indeed junk.  I have installed many good open source software for clients as replacements for many of that junk and for certain paid products as well as installed highly expensive, unique proprietary paid software that isn't just standard "business software".  There's definitely much more out there than your limited set of software and they are most definitely junk.  There's also a lot of junk on the Mac side, but the volume just does not compare because there's just fewer programmers and a much smaller market.


P.S I also don't recommend winzip or winrar anymore, and haven't for many, many years.  I just install 7zip freeware to avoid dealing with licensing.  I keep finding too many companies with non-compliant copies of Winzip or Winrar that I have to press to pay or switch to 7zip.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I use a number of business packages outside of what I mentioned and they all work well. I have technical package outside what I mentioned and they work well.

For every Windows package does not work, I can find an Apple product that does not work either. I had to remove those from my device.

I have no problem that much software works and some doesn't.

But I wish you would be polite and not feel you to trash what I do in order to justify your own position.
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arnoldCommented:
Gentleman, there are many discussions on Mac vs PC.
With advantages and disadvantages for both.


The back and forth on which apps/tools work best is a discussion worth while, but would be useful in this context if packages of interest to the Brett, and others who are audio, video...editing software. Would be of greater utility.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
You make a good point and I will unsubscribe here.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
If we consider that one can run OSX on Windows Hardware and Windows 10 on MAC hardware or dual boot or run the other in a virtual machine there is no real difference.  Legally one can buy a windows license, one cannot buy  an OSX license (it can only be licensed for free on MAC hardware).  The hardware doesn't care

With the majority of Open Source software there are several versions available, Win32/Debian/OSX so that is not an argument

If a Mission critical piece of software only runs on one platform .  Then you are stuck with using that platform.

Every platform has both good and bad software. The total amount of software is primarily driven by the ease of entry into the programming environment and the size of the potential user base.
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serialbandCommented:
Every platform has both good and bad software. The total amount of software is primarily driven by the ease of entry into the programming environment and the size of the potential user base.
That's basically what I said without attacking anyone.
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arnoldCommented:
Initially, but attributing, classifying the mentioned software by John as in effect inconsequential along with suggesting the limited scope, seems to have been interpreted as a diminish,ent and a negative implication.
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serialbandCommented:
Yet he doesn't take issue with your previous statement that was directed at him.  My statement was factual to correct a misconception about Mac Software.  It wasn't directed at him. I deal with both in numerous mixed environments.

I only responded to a direct attack on my statement afterwards.  If he's going to call me a liar by calling my statement rubbish, then I'll respond with some facts and point him out.  If he can't handle being corrected, then he shouldn't start.  It's not the first time.  Just present the facts.
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arnoldCommented:
My comment at no point suggest or diminish his skills or knowledge.

Mac vs PC are a broad years long ........... Discussion/argument.
The Echo system is such that one has to narrow the comparison to the issue at hand.
By mention of specific software by experts, diverted/broadened the discussion outside the narrow field under consideration by the asker.
It went downhill from that point.
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rogerorenCommented:
My experience with Mac is that the software you use for video, audio, graphic design is made to run on Mac hardware easier than the Windows platform. You can get free or trial versions of good programs on both, but it really depends on you own skills as to what the outcome will be. I've use the free program Audacity (audio editor and converter) on both Windows and MAC without problems. I grew up on Adobe Photoshop, but now use Graphic Converter for editing photos (has most of the tools Photoshop has, but a fraction of the cost). Making videos is easy on both platforms, as long as you can figure out how to do stuff. It's the hardware that determines how slowly the conversion or packaging of the movie takes, so you need lots of memory and fast disks to crank out movie after movie.
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serialbandCommented:
... is made to run on Mac hardware easier than the Windows platform.

I only found that to be true of certain Mac specific programs or programs that started life on the Mac.  Things like Audacity is made in the Gnu Linux world, so they basically work the same everywhere.  Certain programs actually work better on Windows because they started their life on Windows.  If you're a power keyboard shortcut user, I find that they work better on Windows.  Mac programmers have to program each keyboard shortcut manually, but Windows has it built-in in their API.

It's the hardware that determines how slowly the conversion or packaging of the movie takes...
That's definitely true.
I wouldn't get a Mac unless it was just recently released.  You also have to wait longer until the next faster model comes out.  You can also configure PC systems to have more RAM and more disk and better graphics if you're willing to spend the money.
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