NTFS permissions - able to edit, save in notepad but not Office products

working on on win2k8r2 server and having trouble with NTFS permissions.  User1 has the following permissions to a folder called 'Statements'.  I want this user to only have Editing and Create access/No Delete capabilities.

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when User1 creates a .txt file or a .bmp file everything works as it should.  the user can edit, save but can't delete.

However, when they create a Office file like in Word or Excel they cannot edit it.  When they try to save they get the error message: 'Access denied. Contact your administrator.'   Why does this work in a .txt file but not in our Office programs?

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jkimzlgAsked:
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Jeremy WeisingerSenior Network Consultant / EngineerCommented:
Office uses temporary files and so needs to be able to delete.
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Radhakrishnan RSenior Technical LeadCommented:
Hi,

Put a tick mark against "Apply these permissions to objects and/or containers within this container only" apply and ok. Now try to create a word/excel file and see if user able to edit/create?
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jkimzlgAuthor Commented:
Office using temporary files seems like the correct answer.  Do you know what files they are?  Is there any way around this, manager does not want them to have delete capability?
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Jeremy WeisingerSenior Network Consultant / EngineerCommented:
There's no way that I know of other than to give the user permission to delete their own files. You can give Creator Owner permission to delete the files but that would mean they can delete anything they own.

Here's detailed information on how and when Word uses temporary files and why it needs to be able to delete them:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/211632/description-of-how-word-creates-temporary-files
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/277867/windows-ntfs-permissions-are-required-when-you-run-word-on-any-ntfs-pa

They're a little old but still relevant and the same applies to other types of Office applications though the specifics may be different.
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jkimzlgAuthor Commented:
'Creator owner' is exactly what I'm looking for...  thank you... :)
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Jeremy WeisingerSenior Network Consultant / EngineerCommented:
Glad to help. :)
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