do you know a tool to block rdp atacks which no need controlPanel/Windows Firewall to be activated ??

do you know a tool to block rdp atacks which no need controlPanel/Windows Firewall to be activated ??
maurice cristenAsked:
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Pushpakumara MahagamageVPCommented:
is it open to internet ?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
You need a firewall somewhere. i.e. at your edge router.
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Iamthecreator OMIT Admin/EE Solution GuideCommented:
Have a look at rdpguard
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
yes i have internet and yes i used rdpguard but ( rdpguard is death if i disable windows firewall) works 100% with firewall so i need otehr option please, thank you
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Best practice is to always enable firewalls on all devices. Why do you want to disable the Windows Firewall?
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
I don't want to disable firewall , other administrators do that! I always need to check if is off or on,can i activate firewall only for 1 applicatiion? e.g.: rdpguard , i mean windows firewall is OFF but is activated only for rdpguard?
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
You would have to create a rule or rules i.e. allow from any to any and the ports that rdpguard  doesn't use.  There should be a corporate policy about enabling/disabling firewalls
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
can u give me a tut or some steps how to do that?
rdpguard works perfect but only when windows firewall is ON , sometimes i check and is OFF and i click ON again etc...
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
and i am tired,about what u said sound very very nice! help me plz
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Allow ALL but 3389 so rdpguard can manage 3389 TCP allow all but 3389You might want to consider making a group policy preference that does this AND also keeps WF running
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
and if i follow ur tutorial rdpguard will block atacks even if WINDOWS FIREWALL will be OFF ??
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
yes but we use port 3389 to connect if we block 3389 then we can't connect anymore
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
I didn't say block 3389 that is covered by another rule just ALLOW other ports
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
i need a solution to block atacks even if firewall is OFF ( many times some admins turn off WF)
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
no windows firewall must be ON. If you use a group policy preference even if someone turns off the firewall it will be enabled when the group policy refreshes.
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
ok so how to use that group policy preference ?show me pls
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
and if i forgot about wind. firewall and rdpguard and i set to block acc. after 3 logon attempts? and be unlocked after 1 min? :P
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
rdpguard changes the settings for RDP in the firewall. So I don't understand your last statement
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
if windows firewall is turn off then rdpguard has no effect anymore,so i need turn on manually , rdpguard not turns on firewall
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JohnCommented:
There are several applications out there.  I use one called syspeace.  They all require a firewall to work.  

disabling the firewall is BAD.  Don't allow other people to do it.  

You need to focus on leaving the firewall turned on rather than protecting RDP while the firewall is off.  

Creating a rule to allow all traffic (except RDP) is not good because it opens the door for many attacks such as SMB attacks.
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
then what is the solution?is there a way to set a rule to turn on firewall if is turned off?i think this is the 1 option,but i don't know how to do that so plz help me with that
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JohnCommented:
As previously mentioned, use Group policy to ensure the firewall remains on.
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
how, this is my problem im so noob sorry, how?can u tell me the steps or show me a tut please
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JohnCommented:
Here is a link to using group policy to control the firewall

https://technet.microsoft.com/library/bdd93eb2-119a-4c82-96de-71f47f63c4ae
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maurice cristenAuthor Commented:
i follow thos tut: http://computerstepbystep.com/windows-firewall-protect-all-network-connections.html
so i think if someone disable the firewall will enabled again
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Blue Street TechLast KnightCommented:
i need a solution to block atacks even if firewall is OFF ( many times some admins turn off WF)
As other experts have said you can implement the Windows firewall from GPO. That is a good practice because you have centralized control but it can be very, very labor intensive because typically software installations will auto write/allow rules for Windows Firewall. With GPOs you have to manually create them. So you definitely need a nesting policy like a Base and then explicits, which will override the Base policy on a per server or group basis. This practice should not be your primary defense but rather your perimeter firewall (hardware) should be and RDP should not be allowed (accessible) at the perimeter of the network, EVER - its a well known and documented security vulnerability. If you have a need for RDP for specific users then RDP over VPN. If you have a company wide need you should be looking at an RDS solution, which includes, at minimum, a Gateway, Broker, and Licensing server and Session Host/s. Depending on the size of the deployment they can consolidate or break them up as your needs & Best Practices dictate.
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