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Does anyone know where to find a good wall mount adjustable keyboard tray with an extendable arm

Hi,

In our training room, which sometimes gets reconfigured with no tables for an open space, we are looking to get wall mounts that will allow items such as a keyboard to sit very tightly against the wall when it is not in use and which can be pulled out from wall when needed.

The wall mount adjustable keyboard tray with an extendable arm should meet the requirements below:
 
1.       Extendable arm with full range of swivel motion which can rotate left and right with ease.
 
2.       Height adjustable arm which can be adjusted upwards and downwards. It will need to appear as if it is sitting on a table where a person is using it. Also, when moving the arm to the position we need it to be in, the arm should lock in place.

3.      Wall mount track to allow for extendable arm to be moved vertically so extendable arm can be moved lower when in use and higher when not in use.

4.      The tray should be foldable upwards, downwards and be lockable so that the tray can be placed tightly against the wall.

5.      The wall mount tray should support the weight of objects such as a keyboard for weights up to 15 kg.

Thanks,
Robbie
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Jackie ManCommented:
You need to custom make one as your use case is specific.
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Thanks for your recommendations.

Your recommended solutions are correct in what we are looking for the Wall mount to do.

Something like this is what we are looking for as recommended by Blue Street Tech:
https://www.ergotron.com/en-gb/products/product-details/productid/207#/

The one thing that is missing from this is that it needs to support the capacity of a minimum of 10kg.

Is there anything on the market like this?

Thanks,
Robbie
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BillDLCommented:
I have a feeling that your 10 or 15Kg criterion may be the stumbling block for your quest.  That's equivalent to placing between 17 and 25 pints of milk on top of a standard keyboard on the tray!  15Kg is generally accepted in the UK and Europe as being the maximum weight of objects for manual handling.  Anybody who has had to frequently handle 15kg boxes will know how heavy that actually is in real terms.  I know because I work in a warehouse and lift objects of this weight all night.
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Blue Street TechLast KnightCommented:
I agree with Bill...I highly doubt you will find a "keyboard" mount that will handle that kind of weight because again the manufacturers are building these to support...a keyboard and a mouse, which in aggregate weighs around 1.5lbs/ 0.68Kg.

I feel something like the ERGOTRON LX Sit-Stand Wall Keyboard Arm is going to be your best bet unless you go completely custom and find a custom fabrication shop that will do precisely what you want but it is going to cost a lot to duplicate!
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serialbandCommented:
What kind of keyboard do you have that's going to be 15kg?
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Jackie ManCommented:
"wall mounts that will allow items such as a keyboard to sit very tightly against the wall"

https://www.healthitoutcomes.com/doc/tandem-arm-wall-mounted-workstation-0001

10kg means to fix a Surface Studio (which its weight is about 10kg) on the monitor anchor of the wall mount, not on the keyboard anchor.

I want to buy a Surface Studio too, but it is very very expensive.

The author did mention Surface Studio in the original question, but has edited the question before you read it.

Anyway, what is the purpose of attaching only a keyboard without a computer?
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BillDLCommented:
>>> "The author did mention Surface Studio in the original question, but has edited the question before you read it." <<<
A fat lot of good that does us.  All I see is "wall mount tray" with no mention of a separate one for monitor/all-in-one device.
"we are looking to get wall mounts that will allow items such as a keyboard to sit very tightly against the wall ... The wall mount tray should support the weight of objects such as a keyboard for weights up to 15 kg."
We don't have crystal balls or clairvoyants at hand to guess this requirement, so we are obviously going to question the weight requirement.

>>> "Anyway, what is the purpose of attaching only a keyboard without a computer?" <<<
So we're the dumb ones then?  I/we no doubt assumed (in the absence of any other information) that there would be a separate tray or some other kind of moveable support for the computer and that this was just about the keyboard tray.

Anyway, for this type of question it is always best to sketch out a rudimentary drwing and scan to PDF or image so we can visualise requirements.
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serialbandCommented:
I didn't see that, which was why I asked.  I don't spend all day on EE just to monitor people's edit's.

If you see most of the listings on E-Bay, several have separate mounts for a monitor, and many "all-in-ones" would fit there.  Since I did not see the Surface pro mentioned, it's more logical to assume a different system than a surface pro.  The surface pro is designed to be more portable and most people would not put it on these trays, as generally these are designed for kiosk systems for public access.  You'd have something that's more solidly secured to the wall or hidden behind it, not on the tray itself.  I'm not sure what exact environment this is for, as that's not described currently.  Many of the places I see these wall mount trays are for public kiosks with monitors, or at convention booths, or have a computer hidden behind the walls or partitions.  If you use some sort of tablet or laptop, you'll still want to watch it like a hawk, as those will disappear easily, even from convention floors.
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Jackie ManCommented:
Not Surface pro, Surface Studio which is weighting about 10kg.
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Jackie ManCommented:
"I didn't see that, which was why I asked.  I don't spend all day on EE just to monitor people's edit's."

I do not do monitoring also.

I was the first person to answer and remember what was said in the question only.
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serialbandCommented:
Then, it's an "all-in-one" and should have a standard monitor mount, unless Microsoft did something stupid in the design.  E-Bay listings should have something.

If you specifically need a foldable keyboard tray:
http://www.afcindustries.com/wall-mounted-foldable-keyboard-tray-with-mouse-holder-p1267

You should then get a separate monitor mount for the Surface Studio.
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Hi everyone,

Thank you for your interest in my question.

I am sorry for the vagueness in my question that I posted.

Jackie Man is correct is his assumption that it may be for a Microsoft Surface Studio.

I had been looking to wall mount a Microsoft Surface Studio in a small room which does not have too much space.

Tech specifications for Microsoft Surface Studio:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/d/surface-studio/8prjdgf4dxft/3024?activetab=pivot:techspecstab

It will not always be used so will need to be kept out of the way, mounted up on the wall via a wall mount.

I have been searching for wall mount adjustable keyboard trays with an extendable arm as the Microsoft Surface Studio is not VESA mountable.

Most companies, even Ergotron, have said that they have no mounts to support the Microsoft Surface Studio.

Our plan is to have the Microsoft Surface Studio attached to a wall mount adjustable keyboard trays with an extendable arm with something like this attached to the base of the Microsoft Surface Studio:

https://www.maclocks.com/surface-studio-mount-surface-studio-secure-mount-surface-studio-lock.html

In our training room, which sometimes gets reconfigured with no tables for an open space, we are looking to get wall mounts that will allow this Display which has a PC built to do the following:

1.       Sit very tightly against the wall when it is not in use. Out of the way so that when the room is full of people, people will be less likely to brush against it. Also the training room is small, so the flatter it fits everything against the wall the better. Also, the small PC in the mount should be tillable so that it can be tilted downwards to sit better against wall.
 
2.       When using it, we need to be able to pull it out from the wall, and have the ability to pull it downwards adjustable to the height we want. For example, it will need to appear as if it is sitting on a table where a person is using it as their work desk PC.

3.       We will have a wireless keyboard and mouse on a table. They will be used when the Microsoft Surface Studio is pulled out from the wall. The mount only needs to support the Microsoft Surface Studio.

I have attached a drawing of what the layout for the Microsoft Surface Studio mounted with a wall mount adjustable keyboard tray with an extendable arm via its PC base has been planned to look like.

I appreciate your interest with this and hope you can help me with a solution.

Thanks,
Robbie
mount-for-microsoft-surface-studio.jpg
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serialbandCommented:
I suggest that you use something that supports VESA mounts, as that would just make life easier.  It's always easier to use standard mounts as that makes the mounting hardware cheaper.
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
The base would need to be mounted, bot the display, as the display is already mounted on the base.   See: https://www.google.ie/search?q=Surface+Studio&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisg5b2p77XAhXHCcAKHeuPCcQQ_AUICigB&biw=1908&bih=1082#imgrc=KvGqkQkYA6mL0M:
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Blue Street TechLast KnightCommented:
I'm late to the debate and I'm glad the OP clarified that his intent was to mount a Surface Studio but that was not mentioned anywhere previously by the OP until his comment confirming such in https:#a42365681. Until then the OP only explicitly mentioned keyboard wallmount, its even in the Title! So I have no idea how @Jackie Man figured out the cypher that when the OP was using the word "keyboard" that really translated into "Surface Studio" but props to you for performing the cryptography to figure it out. Was telepathy involved as well?? :) #iHadTo

@IP4IT Staff: I'm not sure why you didn't just mention this in your original question - it would have sped up the resolution much faster and we wouldn't have had to spin our wheels!
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Jackie ManCommented:
Was telepathy involved as well?? :)

It does not matter. What you propose should matter.
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Blue Street TechLast KnightCommented:
@Jackie Man: Good work in uncovering what he was meaning to say - I'm just messin around and I agree with you! :)
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Hi Jackie Man and Blue Street Tech,

Thank you for your feedback.

I had not mentioned Microsoft Surface Studio because:

1. I have already posted a question asking for recommendations for a wall mount to use for Microsoft Surface Studio where I have not received much solutions.
2. After finding out that the Microsoft Surface Studio is not VESA mountable, we concluded that a good wall mount adjustable keyboard tray with an extendable arm that supports 10kg would be a suitable solution. To avoid confusion I had not mentioned the Surface Studio but I see now that it did not make things clear enough.
3. There does not seem to be any mount that supports the Microsoft Surface Studio so I wanted to prevent the response of people mentioning that there was no support.

We plan to mount the base of the Surface Studio to the Wall mount.

I have still to find a suitable wall mount for this Surface Studio, be it a Vesa like wall mount, keyboard tray, we would like to have the Surface Studio mounted to a wall so it is not in the way when not in use.

Is there any other recommendations?

Thanks,
Robbie
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Jackie ManCommented:
Have you purchased Surface Studio yet?

If no, you shall consider to change your purchase to Surface Hub instead.

https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-surface-hub/en-us/case-studies

Unless your setup for Surface Studio is only a temporary one and you are going to move to a bigger soon, mounting of a Surface Studio on wall is not satisfactory if you think from the users' perspective.
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Hi Jackie Man,

No we have not purchased the Surface Studio yet.

We had planned to order it today.

Is the Surface Hub similar to the Surface Studio?

Thanks,
Robbie
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Jackie ManCommented:
Is the Surface Hub similar to the Surface Studio?

No.

What do you want to do with a Surface Studio? Doing interactive presentation to client?
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Hi Jackie Man,

The Surface Studio will be a used as a workstation as well as for tasks such as interactive presentations.

When the Surface Studio is used, it should be able to facilitate the person using it whether it is for:

- Creating documents or spreadsheets with Microsoft office
- Browsing the web
- Interactive presentations
- Skype meetings

We require the mount for occasions when the Surface Studio is not used and needs to be secured.

Thanks,
Robbie
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Blue Street TechLast KnightCommented:
Thank you for your explanation.

You might want to contact them about their development into Studio - all they do is support Surface but I see some Studio products. A company that solely supports Surface and a little Studio may be developing more Studio specific designs. Its worth a call: https://www.surfaceenclosures.com/catalogsearch/result/?f=studio+wall+mount&q=wall+mount
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IP4IT StaffAuthor Commented:
Thanks Blue Street Tech for your suggestion.

I contacted Surface Enclosures and they said they do not have any wall mounts to support the Microsoft Surface Studio.

Would non-vesa mounts be something that could work with the Microsoft Surface Studio?
https://www.google.ie/search?q=non+vesa+mounts&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6j-zHl8PXAhXhD8AKHdw5DDUQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=918#imgrc=x7RYFJHmwTnOfM:

Thanks,
Robbie
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Jackie ManCommented:
You need a carpenter to custom make a movable docking desk for the Surface Studio.
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serialbandCommented:
Either that, or just get something that supports VESA mounts instead.  It might be simpler.
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