Joomla to WordPress Conversion

I have a customer who wants to convert her joomla site to wordpress and has asked to find out how much it would cost to do so. I have no idea at all so I can't setup a Gigs request since I have no budget idea in mind. As such my question is two-fold: 1) can those plugins for wordpress convert a joomla site to wordpress (and how well does it work)? 2) how would I go about determining how much a conversion would cost without using a conversion plugin? She does not want me to share her website URL yet. I know that would be helpful but at this point, I can't go against her wishes. Thanks!
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAsked:
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Usually I prefer deleting questions that have no solutions (as is the case with this question--no solution found), however this time I thought what I discovered may be worth passing on to others with the same question, and what I found is that you cannot "move" your website from joomla to wordpress. No way to move the design and layout along with all the data (text, articles, posts, etc.) but you can do is to "extract your data" from your joomla site so that you don't have to go page by page, post by post, picture by picture and copy it to use in your wordpress site and to that end some helpful suggestions were made above.
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Rowby GorenCommented:
Hi Lionel,

Yes there are plug-ins that will help you convert the articles, and I think the wordpress posts to Joomla.

Keep in mind that you will either have to create a custom joomla theme that matches the look of her wordpress site or have her pick an existing Joomla Theme that looks good to her. I suggest you avoid the custom theme route because it can be a lot of headaches .

When I get home I will post links to the plug-ins that should do the job so far as post and articles.

You will have to find similar Joomla! modules and components to handle any slideshows she might have.  Because  wordPress slideshows and other WordPress plug-ins cannot be converted by the migration plug-ins to Joomla

 There are lots of other questions that need to be resolved, for example does she have a lot of users that need to be re-created in the new joomla  site. Is there a forum etc etc etc on the word press site ——so we need to know a lot more things as you decide what to do.

And the obvious question :  Do you know how to build a joomla site?

 I will revisit the question later on today when I get home.

Rowby
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David FavorLinux/LXD/WordPress/Hosting SavantCommented:
1) Plugins for wordpress convert a Joomla site to WordPress?

There are many.

How well do the work?

This depends on your site. What I'd do is spin up a dev site + just try a few plugins + find one that worked best for the site in question.

Note: Keep in mind, these plugins will only migrate content. No plugin will some how convert the look + feel (code) of a Joomla site to WordPress. Code conversion will be done by hand.

2) How would I go about determining how much a conversion would cost without using a conversion plugin?

Basically the same cost, the only way a plugin will dramatically reduce cost is if you have 1000s of articles.

3) She does not want me to share her website URL yet.

Then there's very little help anyone can give. Sites tend to have specific nuances + there's no way to guess about an unseen site.

When clients hire me to migrate other CMSes to WordPress, I just pull the posts out using SQL + populate a fresh WordPress site with the content using wp-cli + then bill by the hour to recreate look + feel of site on WordPress.
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Rowby Goren -- this is from joomla to wordpress and not WP to joomla -- your comments were discussing WP to joomla ( to create a custom joomla theme that matches the look of her wordpress site) and And the obvious question :  Do you know how to build a joomla site? -- no I don't and don't want to--want to create a WP site.

David Favor I will try your suggestion to create a testing site -- any plugins you have used and can thus recommend to try first?

Thanks!
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Rowby GorenCommented:
.Hi Lionel

Hee he. — I was looking at your question on my cell phone — which is why I got the migration reversed.

In any case I’ll see if I can find the component in Joomla that can do some of the conversions for you.  There is one I am thinking of — and I will check it out when I get home in a few hours

Rowby
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Rowby GorenCommented:
Hi Lionel,

Looking at the extensions I"ve used for migration, they are "unfortunately" migrating from Wordpress to Joomla.

So I defer to David Favor's solution -- unless you can find a Wordpress plugin that will do it that has good reviews.

Rowby
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
ok thanks -- will wait to see which one he recommends
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David FavorLinux/LXD/WordPress/Hosting SavantCommented:
Whew... Tough to say on conversion plugins to use...

I'd just start through the WordPress plugins directory + start trying some.

I'd likely just make a backup of the WordPress site database + then just start installing + running different Joomla -> WordPress conversion plugins. If the results looked good, great. If the results were scrambled, I'd drop the WordPress database + keep going through this process till I found a plugins which did a fairly descent conversion job.
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David FavorLinux/LXD/WordPress/Hosting SavantCommented:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/search/joomla for good starting point finding conversion plugins.
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Peter HartCommented:
I recently "transferred the content" from Joomla to WordPress.  its never going to be a conversion.
the Wordpress plugin I used imported the Joomla Articles as WordPress Posts, which was a pain as I wanted the articles to be Pages.
it also transferred all the images and media files.

I managed to set up the WordPress site while the Joomla site was still live.

All the other functions that were in the Joomla Site I then looked for WordPress equilivants - such as an Jevents in Joomla I used WordPress time.ly calendar  - what I couldn't do was transfer all the events that were in the calendar - but the client was happy to redo that (phew)
and also a Newsletter function was found (had to manually export mailing list and then import mailing list into WordPress

the plugin I used was:  https://en-gb.wordpress.org/plugins/fg-joomla-to-wordpress/
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Thanks for that comment--that plugin is the first and only one I tried--first place I went was to Wordpress and did a search on import joomla and it gave me that plugin--tried it and the results were just horrible and thus my starting this question--I even contacted the developer (see attached picture) to see if he could help me. Looks like there is really no "great" plugin -- just really plugins that copy over "most" of the content but none of the design and look of the site which upon greater reflection was a pipe dream since there is so much involved with themes and layout -- I was just naive in thinking that HTML and CSS code would "recreate" almost everything -- thanks for the input though. I guess there is no "easy" solution just a laborious task of creating pages in Wordpress and moving data and content from one site to the next until the "conversion" is done.
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Peter HartCommented:
you could try and recreate the look and feel using a wordpress template maker such as Artisteer (see http://www.artisteer.com)   which is a theme generator
and exports to Wordpress (and Joomla)

I was lucky and the client wanted a more modern look and so the look and feel was easy to move to a new look.
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
I will check it out but in some ways I guess it like deciding between upgrading Windows XP, after running it for 10 years, to Windows 10 or to do a clean install of Win10. Experience has taught me that a clean install is the best approach, 95% of the time so this is probably like that--leave the old behind and get with the new--the main issue I was trying to deal with was her budget--she wanted to either pay a developer to update her current joomla site or convert to Wordpress so in the future they could do most of the adding and removing of pictures, content, and blogs. her "proposed" budget for this was so small that making a new site from scratch would be impossible $2000 doesn't get her much. I may have to convince her with more details and facts to try to up her budget somewhat and think long-term and not just a quick and easy joomla content update. Again thanks to all for their input and trying to help.
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Rowby GorenCommented:
Best wishes.   Rowby.
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Lionel MMSmall Business IT ConsultantAuthor Commented:
see final comment for why
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