mlcktmguy
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Importing a large fixed length .txt file into SQL Server
I have another question here open explaining the situation.
That question is asking how to transfer this table directly to SQL server using ms Access 2013. At this point there has been no resolution so I am going to asking the question specific to SQL Server.
How can I import this very large, fixed length field .txt file directly into a SQL Server table.
This is the layout of the table:
And this is the layout of each record in the .txt file
Col Lgth
Cost Name 1 30 ShortText
MuniCode 31 4 ShortText
LotBlock 35 17 ShortText
TaxType 52 1 ShortText
MuniCode02 54 4 ShortText
ControlNumber 57 7 ShortText
TaxType02 64 1 ShortText
CostDetail 65 14000 Long Text
GRBNumber 14065 30 ShortText
GDNumber 14095 30 SHortText
Remarks 14125 75 ShortText
Can someone explain how to import the file 'I:\My Documents\Access_Databases \JordanDel inq\TestDi rectory\Co stSheet\TQ CSFILE.txt ' into the SQL table?
This is someting that will have to be done more than once so it would be best if everything needed was contained in a Stored Procedure.
That question is asking how to transfer this table directly to SQL server using ms Access 2013. At this point there has been no resolution so I am going to asking the question specific to SQL Server.
How can I import this very large, fixed length field .txt file directly into a SQL Server table.
This is the layout of the table:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[SQCS_CostFile_Import](
[ID] [int] IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL,
[CostName] [nvarchar](30) NULL,
[MuniCode] [nvarchar](4) NULL,
[LotBlock] [nvarchar](17) NULL,
[TaxType] [nvarchar](1) NULL,
[MuniCode02] [nvarchar](4) NULL,
[ControlNumber] [nvarchar](7) NULL,
[TaxType02] [nvarchar](1) NULL,
[CostDetail01_100] [ntext] NULL,
[GRBNumnber] [nvarchar](30) NULL,
[GDNumber] [nvarchar](30) NULL,
[Remarks] [nvarchar](76) NULL,
[upsize_ts] [timestamp] NULL,
CONSTRAINT [aaaaaSQCS_CostFile_Import_PK] PRIMARY KEY NONCLUSTERED
(
[ID] ASC
)WITH (PAD_INDEX = OFF, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF, ALLOW_ROW_LOCKS = ON, ALLOW_PAGE_LOCKS = ON) ON [PRIMARY]
) ON [PRIMARY] TEXTIMAGE_ON [PRIMARY]
And this is the layout of each record in the .txt file
Col Lgth
Cost Name 1 30 ShortText
MuniCode 31 4 ShortText
LotBlock 35 17 ShortText
TaxType 52 1 ShortText
MuniCode02 54 4 ShortText
ControlNumber 57 7 ShortText
TaxType02 64 1 ShortText
CostDetail 65 14000 Long Text
GRBNumber 14065 30 ShortText
GDNumber 14095 30 SHortText
Remarks 14125 75 ShortText
Can someone explain how to import the file 'I:\My Documents\Access_Databases
This is someting that will have to be done more than once so it would be best if everything needed was contained in a Stored Procedure.
Well, that layout is very much like a format file.
Can use BCP with a format file to import. BCP is a SQL Server utility. See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/tools/bcp-utility
Or, use openrowset(bulk, 'textfilename' , format='formatfilename')
Will be back in a few minutes to show how....
Can use BCP with a format file to import. BCP is a SQL Server utility. See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/tools/bcp-utility
Or, use openrowset(bulk, 'textfilename' , format='formatfilename')
Will be back in a few minutes to show how....
Have built a non-xml format file for you
If we can grab some test data would be very good.
But first, we will try from sql server / SSMS to see the data
So, save the format file - as a txt file - in a directory readily available to your SQL Server. For me, I have it in c:\mrw\test\ee\SQCS_CostFi le_Import. txt
Then in a new query window we will try to select :
14.0
11
1 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 1 CostName ""
2 SQLCHAR 0 31 "" 2 MiniCode ""
3 SQLCHAR 0 35 "" 3 LotBlock ""
4 SQLCHAR 0 52 "" 4 TaxType ""
5 SQLCHAR 0 54 "" 5 MiniCode02 ""
6 SQLCHAR 0 57 "" 6 ControlNumber ""
7 SQLCHAR 0 64 "" 7 TaxType02 ""
8 SQLCHAR 0 65 "" 8 CostDetail ""
9 SQLCHAR 0 14065 "" 9 GRBNumber ""
10 SQLCHAR 0 14095 "" 10 GDNNumber ""
11 SQLCHAR 0 14125 "\r\n" 11 Remarks ""
If we can grab some test data would be very good.
But first, we will try from sql server / SSMS to see the data
So, save the format file - as a txt file - in a directory readily available to your SQL Server. For me, I have it in c:\mrw\test\ee\SQCS_CostFi
Then in a new query window we will try to select :
select * FROM OPENROWSET( BULK 'I:\My Documents\Access_Databases\JordanDelinq\TestDirectory\CostSheet\TQCSFILE.txt',FORMATFILE = 'c:\mrw\test\ee\SQCS_CostFile_Import.txt') as a
Let us know how you go, and also, that test data...
ASKER
Thank you Mark: I'm trying to implement your suggestion
I first used notepad to create "I:\My Documents\Access_Databases \JordanDel inq\TestDi rectory\SQ LImportFor matFiles\S QCS_CostFi le_Import. txt" by cutting and pasting the format you created. The contents of the file are:
Within SSMS in a new query window I modified your command to look like this:
When I tried to execute the command I got an Error:
Msg 4820, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Cannot bulk load. Unknown version of format file "I:\My Documents\Access_Databases \JordanDel inq\TestDi rectory\SQ LImportFor matFiles\S QCS_CostFi le_Import. txt".
Seems promising because SQL is trying to read the format file. Can you spot anything I'm doing wrong?
I first used notepad to create "I:\My Documents\Access_Databases
14.0
11
1 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 1 CostName ""
2 SQLCHAR 0 31 "" 2 MiniCode ""
3 SQLCHAR 0 35 "" 3 LotBlock ""
4 SQLCHAR 0 52 "" 4 TaxType ""
5 SQLCHAR 0 54 "" 5 MiniCode02 ""
6 SQLCHAR 0 57 "" 6 ControlNumber ""
7 SQLCHAR 0 64 "" 7 TaxType02 ""
8 SQLCHAR 0 65 "" 8 CostDetail ""
9 SQLCHAR 0 14065 "" 9 GRBNumber ""
10 SQLCHAR 0 14095 "" 10 GDNNumber ""
11 SQLCHAR 0 14125 "\r\n" 11 Remarks ""
Within SSMS in a new query window I modified your command to look like this:
select * FROM OPENROWSET( BULK 'I:\My Documents\Access_Databases\JordanDelinq\TestDirectory\CostSheet\TQCSFILE.txt',FORMATFILE = 'I:\My Documents\Access_Databases\JordanDelinq\TestDirectory\SQLImportFormatFiles\SQCS_CostFile_Import.txt') as a
When I tried to execute the command I got an Error:
Msg 4820, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Cannot bulk load. Unknown version of format file "I:\My Documents\Access_Databases
Seems promising because SQL is trying to read the format file. Can you spot anything I'm doing wrong?
Not you, but me.... the very top left of the format file has a 14.0 and probably should be 10.0
The actual content is still the same, just the Version Number needs to be edited and change the 4 to 0
See : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/import-export/non-xml-format-files-sql-server
Sorry about that.
The actual content is still the same, just the Version Number needs to be edited and change the 4 to 0
See : https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/import-export/non-xml-format-files-sql-server
Sorry about that.
ASKER
Mark no problem I appreciate your help.
I changed the 14.0 to 12.0, the file imported and showed on the screen but the data wasn't pulled correctly, as in the respective date wasn't in the correct columns.
I went back to the link you had supplied about creating the import formats and noticed that the 4th column in the spec was the field length not the starting position of the field.
I changed the import spec to look like this:
I thought that would solve it but when I executed the select again I got errors
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 1, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 2, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 3, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 4, column 11 (Remarks).
Eventually it canceled after 10 of these errors. The field lengths in my spec match the field lengths in the old import spec. Any idea what I did wrong?
I changed the 14.0 to 12.0, the file imported and showed on the screen but the data wasn't pulled correctly, as in the respective date wasn't in the correct columns.
I went back to the link you had supplied about creating the import formats and noticed that the 4th column in the spec was the field length not the starting position of the field.
I changed the import spec to look like this:
12.0
11
1 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 1 CostName ""
2 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 2 MiniCode ""
3 SQLCHAR 0 17 "" 3 LotBlock ""
4 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 4 TaxType ""
5 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 5 MiniCode02 ""
6 SQLCHAR 0 7 "" 6 ControlNumber ""
7 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 7 TaxType02 ""
8 SQLCHAR 0 14000 "" 8 CostDetail ""
9 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 9 GRBNumber ""
10 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 10 GDNNumber ""
11 SQLCHAR 0 75 "\r\n" 11 Remarks ""
I thought that would solve it but when I executed the select again I got errors
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 1, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 2, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 3, column 11 (Remarks).
Msg 4863, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 4, column 11 (Remarks).
Eventually it canceled after 10 of these errors. The field lengths in my spec match the field lengths in the old import spec. Any idea what I did wrong?
A little bit of sample data ?
Let me do the heavy lifting of proving it will work - it is what I do :)
Let me do the heavy lifting of proving it will work - it is what I do :)
Bulk load data conversion error (truncation) for row 1, column 11 (Remarks).check your target table's column 11, make sure its field size is enough for the insertion.
ASKER
Mark I really don't know a proper way to truncate this file. I pulled it up in the editor and deleted records from the bottom. Here's a short version, only a few records.
TQCSFILE_Short.txt
TQCSFILE_Short.txt
ASKER
Ryan, at this point there is no target table.
This is purely a select. Once we get this step worked out I will need to know how to get the data to the target table though.
This is purely a select. Once we get this step worked out I will need to know how to get the data to the target table though.
Remarks in your table definition says [Remarks] [nvarchar](76) NULL,
And apologies about start position v length - deleted the wrong column in my macro ... completely my bad.
And apologies about start position v length - deleted the wrong column in my macro ... completely my bad.
ASKER
Thanks,
I changed the definition in the import spec to 76 but got the same error.
I changed the definition in the import spec to 76 but got the same error.
12.0
11
1 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 1 CostName ""
2 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 2 MiniCode ""
3 SQLCHAR 0 17 "" 3 LotBlock ""
4 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 4 TaxType ""
5 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 5 MiniCode02 ""
6 SQLCHAR 0 7 "" 6 ControlNumber ""
7 SQLCHAR 0 1 "" 7 TaxType02 ""
8 SQLCHAR 0 14000 "" 8 CostDetail ""
9 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 9 GRBNumber ""
10 SQLCHAR 0 30 "" 10 GDNNumber ""
11 SQLCHAR 0 76 "\r\n" 11 Remarks ""
Yep, me too.
The format file is clearly wrong. I can 'trick' into giving me some data, but then GRBNumber and GDNNumber appear as :
GDNNumber of '000826-C-326 1000800' doesnt look right - or does it ? Looks more like the start of next row.
The earlier columns with minicode and minicode2 of 0008 and taxtype and taxtype2 of 1 look good, so I am thinking it is that costdetail, not the remarks.
The format file is clearly wrong. I can 'trick' into giving me some data, but then GRBNumber and GDNNumber appear as :
TTTTTTT JOSEPH & CATHERINE ,000826-C-326 1000800
XXXXXXXXXXX, FREDERICK ,000826-C-344 1000800
GDNNumber of '000826-C-326 1000800' doesnt look right - or does it ? Looks more like the start of next row.
The earlier columns with minicode and minicode2 of 0008 and taxtype and taxtype2 of 1 look good, so I am thinking it is that costdetail, not the remarks.
ASKER
by changing costdetail to 700 and remarks to 10000 it will read the file
CostName MiniCode LotBlock TaxType MiniCode02 ControlNumber TaxType02 CostDetail GRBNumber GDNNumber Remarks
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ASKER
I am really confused now. I was doubting that my import spec was correct so I went on another computer in the office that imported the entire original 'short' version of the cost file that I used in my original testing. With the smaller file I was able to import the entire file directly into the SQL table from within Access, using the Access Import spec. This is how the fields parsed out.
This was just from
PassedImportTable – is the linked SQL Server table linked where the imported data will go
passedImportSpec – Name of the Import Spec for the table being imported
passedClearFileBeforeImpor ting -= Boolean flag. If yes, the SQL table is cleared of data before the import
no other data manipulation took place. So I think the import spec and field lengths are correct but something is definitely throwing off SQL Server
This was just from
DoCmd.TransferText acImportFixed, _
passedImportSpec, _
passedImportTable, _
passedImportFIle, _
False
passedImportFIle – is the complete path, including the file name, to the .txt file to be importedPassedImportTable – is the linked SQL Server table linked where the imported data will go
passedImportSpec – Name of the Import Spec for the table being imported
passedClearFileBeforeImpor
no other data manipulation took place. So I think the import spec and field lengths are correct but something is definitely throwing off SQL Server
is it possible to have values of '1' for GRBNumber and '2' for GDNNumber and 'remarks' for remarks in your test data ?
We can then align to those.
Or could be GRB and GDN columns not actually exported. NULLs might terminate depending on how you export.
I can get to 13900 for cost length, but at 14000 it then starts to 'eat into' the next row.
We can then align to those.
Or could be GRB and GDN columns not actually exported. NULLs might terminate depending on how you export.
I can get to 13900 for cost length, but at 14000 it then starts to 'eat into' the next row.
Given that screen dump, we are missing the last three columns from the txt data file you provided.....
I have done a hex dump on the file and cannot see those three columns.
Can we get that 'original' test file ?
Or you try the select openrowset(bulk...) on that 'original' test file.
You can make 'remarks' as long as you want. It is actually terminated by CR LF so has no fixed length per se.
I have done a hex dump on the file and cannot see those three columns.
Can we get that 'original' test file ?
Or you try the select openrowset(bulk...) on that 'original' test file.
You can make 'remarks' as long as you want. It is actually terminated by CR LF so has no fixed length per se.
ASKER
I tried but I can't even attach the 'small' original file, it is too large. That's why I tried a manually truncated version for you.
I did try openrowset(bulk with the original smaller file and I get same Column 11 (Remarks) error.
I did try openrowset(bulk with the original smaller file and I get same Column 11 (Remarks) error.
Make remarks 10000 in the format file - it is terminated by cr lf anyway so will only consume the characters needed.
It is a bit strange because I only see ZERO's - even in the hex dump.
Maybe dropbox or something ?
It is a bit strange because I only see ZERO's - even in the hex dump.
Maybe dropbox or something ?
ASKER
Mark, I sent you a message with an attachment. Let me know if it helps.
Well, it is being terminated at 14065.
Must have NULLs in there - anyway to eliminate NULL values in your export options ?
Or, we connect directly to your Access tables and pull the data in.
Must have NULLs in there - anyway to eliminate NULL values in your export options ?
Or, we connect directly to your Access tables and pull the data in.
I assume you are exporting directly from a table ?
If so, so what about creating a query ? that way we can intervene with and change the SQL for columns suspected (or known) to have NULL values
e.g. SELECT Nz(GRBNumber, " ") As GRBNumber, Nz(GDNNumber," ") As GDNNumber etc....
Then Export that query to text file
Have a read of : https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Export-data-to-a-text-file-f72dfc38-a8a0-4c5b-8c2c-bf2950814140
And take note of the very last item.... "Null values Check the source ... correct the source, and then try exporting again."
Easiest way is a query me thinks....
If so, so what about creating a query ? that way we can intervene with and change the SQL for columns suspected (or known) to have NULL values
e.g. SELECT Nz(GRBNumber, " ") As GRBNumber, Nz(GDNNumber," ") As GDNNumber etc....
Then Export that query to text file
Have a read of : https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Export-data-to-a-text-file-f72dfc38-a8a0-4c5b-8c2c-bf2950814140
And take note of the very last item.... "Null values Check the source ... correct the source, and then try exporting again."
Easiest way is a query me thinks....
ASKER
Thanks Mark, I really appreciate you help on this.
1. I cannot use Access to handle anything this large. My initial conversion used Access to import the first, much smaller, set of txt files the client gave me. Everything worked perfectly. The client recently supplied me with a full set of conversion files. When I ran the full set into my MS Access logic it exploded, even though I was only using Access purely as a transfer method with no data manipulation at all. A simple
2. I have no control over the creation of the data. These files are generated by the client.
On the samller fiel, the TransferText command worked perfectly and created the SQL server output file I posted a snapshot of. All the fields, including the GRBNumber, GDNumber and Remarks were parsed and assigned to the correct fields when added to the SQL table.
Not sure what to do at this point.
1. I cannot use Access to handle anything this large. My initial conversion used Access to import the first, much smaller, set of txt files the client gave me. Everything worked perfectly. The client recently supplied me with a full set of conversion files. When I ran the full set into my MS Access logic it exploded, even though I was only using Access purely as a transfer method with no data manipulation at all. A simple
DoCmd.TransferText acImportFixed, _
passedImportSpec, _
passedImportTable, _
passedImportFIle, _
False
crashed. Apparently even the 'TransferText' command creates an internal query to move the data. The query was too big. That's why I posted my original question again but specific to pulling the records directly in thru SQL Server.2. I have no control over the creation of the data. These files are generated by the client.
On the samller fiel, the TransferText command worked perfectly and created the SQL server output file I posted a snapshot of. All the fields, including the GRBNumber, GDNumber and Remarks were parsed and assigned to the correct fields when added to the SQL table.
Not sure what to do at this point.
TransferText is possibly checking 'NULL' values and doing the Nz() from Access to SQL.
How is the Client giving you the test data - and what format ?
Is the test file you supplied us exactly the same as the much smaller test files the Client provided you ?
If you have altered that data in any way (including loading into Access), then maybe those changes have somehow impacted...
So, I would still do the Query in Access with the Nz() and export to text. We can go through that process anyway. It will be worthwhile. We can eliminate one aspect of current testing.
If by chance the test files given to you by the Client is different, I would suggest editing one of the smaller files (assuming a text file) and going to end of line and seeing if it is a bunch of zero's or, has something more like remarks....
If you can provide details as to how your client is providing their Data files to you, then we might be able to deal with their files directly.
But do the query with Nz() first and let's eliminate one aspect of this current testing.
How is the Client giving you the test data - and what format ?
Is the test file you supplied us exactly the same as the much smaller test files the Client provided you ?
If you have altered that data in any way (including loading into Access), then maybe those changes have somehow impacted...
So, I would still do the Query in Access with the Nz() and export to text. We can go through that process anyway. It will be worthwhile. We can eliminate one aspect of current testing.
If by chance the test files given to you by the Client is different, I would suggest editing one of the smaller files (assuming a text file) and going to end of line and seeing if it is a bunch of zero's or, has something more like remarks....
If you can provide details as to how your client is providing their Data files to you, then we might be able to deal with their files directly.
But do the query with Nz() first and let's eliminate one aspect of this current testing.
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Mark,
The file as delivered from the client has a .dat extension. I rename the file to .txt.
The large file should be exactly the same format as the smaller file.
I wnet back to the original file format supplied by the client and saw a field after 'Remarks'. The filed is 'Filler' with a text length of 100. 'Filler' is a field name from Cobol indicating that portion of the record is not used.
I have been trying every which way I can thin of to connect to (getting a file to large error) or import the file into Access without success.
I can't use the transfertext on the larger file because it blows access up. The smaller file, that I sent to you work fine using transfertext.
So far I'm stumped but will keep trying.
The file as delivered from the client has a .dat extension. I rename the file to .txt.
The large file should be exactly the same format as the smaller file.
I wnet back to the original file format supplied by the client and saw a field after 'Remarks'. The filed is 'Filler' with a text length of 100. 'Filler' is a field name from Cobol indicating that portion of the record is not used.
I have been trying every which way I can thin of to connect to (getting a file to large error) or import the file into Access without success.
I can't use the transfertext on the larger file because it blows access up. The smaller file, that I sent to you work fine using transfertext.
So far I'm stumped but will keep trying.
1) Hopefully we can bypass having to use Access
2) Let's prove the Nz() theory any way by using Access query and export from that. Do you need help with that ?
3) Why bother with Access Query above ? To prove the process. Eliminate an unexpected failure. Yes, a bit academic in some regards.
4) Do you need the large file in Access ? It is sounding like that wont work, so let's try to get the .Dat into SQL Server.
5) If you can edit the .Dat file and see remarks, then we should be able to do something with it. But if you are seeing the remarks as a result of your import into Access, then we need to understand how you imported (the steps). And then we need to physically check the files BEFORE any load into Access.
6) Yes, I understand COBOL's use of Filler - primarily for data alignment....
7) if the Client has promised fixed width, fixed length file, then are they prepping the data for export from their systems ?
8) Now that I know they are .DAT files from a Cobol system, are we trying to load the data component of that system ? For example, Micro Focus Cobol will store data in a .DAT and indexes in .IDX. Or if coming from a classic environment, might have to deal with EBCDIC.
9) That's why I want to understand what you have agreed with The Client - how many / how big are these files.
10) If you can EDIT the files (in something like Notepad) and see the data, then we can probably do something with it.
If you can respond to each point (point by point) in detail, then we can progress.
2) Let's prove the Nz() theory any way by using Access query and export from that. Do you need help with that ?
3) Why bother with Access Query above ? To prove the process. Eliminate an unexpected failure. Yes, a bit academic in some regards.
4) Do you need the large file in Access ? It is sounding like that wont work, so let's try to get the .Dat into SQL Server.
5) If you can edit the .Dat file and see remarks, then we should be able to do something with it. But if you are seeing the remarks as a result of your import into Access, then we need to understand how you imported (the steps). And then we need to physically check the files BEFORE any load into Access.
6) Yes, I understand COBOL's use of Filler - primarily for data alignment....
7) if the Client has promised fixed width, fixed length file, then are they prepping the data for export from their systems ?
8) Now that I know they are .DAT files from a Cobol system, are we trying to load the data component of that system ? For example, Micro Focus Cobol will store data in a .DAT and indexes in .IDX. Or if coming from a classic environment, might have to deal with EBCDIC.
9) That's why I want to understand what you have agreed with The Client - how many / how big are these files.
10) If you can EDIT the files (in something like Notepad) and see the data, then we can probably do something with it.
If you can respond to each point (point by point) in detail, then we can progress.
If the file is less than 2GB in size, I've had much better success just bulk-loading the entire file, all at once, into a SQL variable, then splitting out the columns in SQL itself. If it's a fixed-length source, that will be even easier, since you won't have to use a really fast splitter, such as delimitedsplit8k, to split the rows using delimiters.
DECLARE @file_data nvarchar(max)
/* I'm using "nvarchar" because you did in the table def. If the file def doesn't support unicode,
SQL may reject the type and you'll need to use "varchar(max)" and "SINGLE_CLOB" instead; that's typically what I end up having to use. */
SELECT @file_data = ors.data
FROM OPENROWSET(BULK 'x:\path\to\file\name\file name.txt', SINGLE_NCLOB) ors(data)
From there, you can parse data from @file_data and load it into a table(s) as needed.
DECLARE @file_data nvarchar(max)
/* I'm using "nvarchar" because you did in the table def. If the file def doesn't support unicode,
SQL may reject the type and you'll need to use "varchar(max)" and "SINGLE_CLOB" instead; that's typically what I end up having to use. */
SELECT @file_data = ors.data
FROM OPENROWSET(BULK 'x:\path\to\file\name\file
From there, you can parse data from @file_data and load it into a table(s) as needed.
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Mark:
I am having no luck with Access. I posted a question asking for ideas on how to handle this data in Access. The suggested method 'linking to the csv file' in VBA code' worked. I was able to connect to the file, read thru the entire small version of the file and write to the SQL table. However, when I switched to linking to the large table the logic would read thru about 30,00 records and throw out the same old '3183' error.
Same answer to 2 and 3.
There are are close to 100 unique .dat files coming from the client from areas in the legacy system. To date all but this one have successfully processed using MS Access. The size of this one is causing issues all around.
I cannot edit the large file.
I looked thru the small file after it had been imported using the Access TransferTex command. Some of the 'Remarks' fields do contain a bunch of zeroes but others contain actual comments.
1) Hopefully we can bypass having to use Access
I am having no luck with Access. I posted a question asking for ideas on how to handle this data in Access. The suggested method 'linking to the csv file' in VBA code' worked. I was able to connect to the file, read thru the entire small version of the file and write to the SQL table. However, when I switched to linking to the large table the logic would read thru about 30,00 records and throw out the same old '3183' error.
Same answer to 2 and 3.
4) Do you need the large file in Access ? It is sounding like that wont work, so let's try to get the .Dat into SQL Server.At some point I have to process this data thru Access but I don't need to use Access to load the file. I tried messaging you the zipped up .DAT but it knew the zip contained a .dat file and wouldn't let me send it to you.
9) That's why I want to understand what you have agreed with The Client - how many / how big are these files.
There are are close to 100 unique .dat files coming from the client from areas in the legacy system. To date all but this one have successfully processed using MS Access. The size of this one is causing issues all around.
10) If you can EDIT the files (in something like Notepad) and see the data, then we can probably do something with it.
I cannot edit the large file.
I looked thru the small file after it had been imported using the Access TransferTex command. Some of the 'Remarks' fields do contain a bunch of zeroes but others contain actual comments.
try renaming the file with .txt extension and see if the zip process let's that through.....
otherwise check my full bio....
what is the legacy system, and is it Micro Focus Cobol ?
otherwise check my full bio....
what is the legacy system, and is it Micro Focus Cobol ?
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Yes, that worked
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Don't know which version of Cobol they are using
do you have the cobol record layout definitions - complete with redefines ?
I think I have a solution for you :)
I am pretty sure that some rows will be longer than others and the extra data is the redefines tacked on to the end....
Just want to make very sure of the cobol record layout, otherwise we will be getting a truck load of erroneous zeros. The costdetail isnt that big, but probably padded with zeros for the sake of data alignment...
So, the 14065 is probably right. we just need to unpack longer data rows for GRBnumber, GDNnumber and remarks.
Which also means that our Remarks column in the Format file needs to also be 14000 and we manually substring the three elusive columns effectively missing GRBNumber and GDNNumber and changing Remarks to 14000.
If I am right, we will see two rows of data. One with CostDetails, and the other with a longer row containing the three columns.
Does that make sense ?
I fired up a very old Dev machine and copied a few .DAT files from a Cobol system I had written in another life. Two rows per record ....
I think I have a solution for you :)
I am pretty sure that some rows will be longer than others and the extra data is the redefines tacked on to the end....
Just want to make very sure of the cobol record layout, otherwise we will be getting a truck load of erroneous zeros. The costdetail isnt that big, but probably padded with zeros for the sake of data alignment...
So, the 14065 is probably right. we just need to unpack longer data rows for GRBnumber, GDNnumber and remarks.
Which also means that our Remarks column in the Format file needs to also be 14000 and we manually substring the three elusive columns effectively missing GRBNumber and GDNNumber and changing Remarks to 14000.
If I am right, we will see two rows of data. One with CostDetails, and the other with a longer row containing the three columns.
Does that make sense ?
I fired up a very old Dev machine and copied a few .DAT files from a Cobol system I had written in another life. Two rows per record ....
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MArk I sent the layout to you in a message.
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Thank you for all of your help.
Sorry it took so long, and feel as if I havent quite finished - would like to resolve the multi line and expand those CostDetail fields.
please let me know if you need a hand.
I do owe you for mucking up the format file....
Cheers,
Mark Wills
please let me know if you need a hand.
I do owe you for mucking up the format file....
Cheers,
Mark Wills
try refer to:
Import Bulk Data by Using BULK INSERT or OPENROWSET(BULK...) (SQL Server)
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/import-export/import-bulk-data-by-using-bulk-insert-or-openrowset-bulk-sql-server
you probably can create a stored procedure at MS SQL end to include BULK INSERT or OPENROWSET command, then let Access to call that stored procedure.