boot problem from imaged SSD

. i imaged a 240 GB kingston SSD with paragon disk manager 15 to a Samsung 500 GB drive without problems
only - on the Original system the copy does not boot -
the old one does boot from boot manager In the BIOS - not from the disk itself; the new one does not boot from either one
the weird thing is that the copy DOES boot on another system without problems

suggestions? asap plse!
the system is windows 7 -64 bit
and of course -  the SSD is on the priority list as second - first is boot manager
system board Asus Rampage 4 Extreme
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nobusAsked:
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Jackie ManConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Are you using Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium SP5 to do the clone?
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Jackie ManCommented:
Turn off uefi and secure boot in BIOS in original computer.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
tried that - set it to raid - same problem
btw - iput in a question on it at ASus
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Thomas Zucker-ScharffSystems AnalystCommented:
And what type of system is it (brand)  - some Lenovo systems can have this problem,  by design.
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Sam Simon NasserIT Support ProfessionalCommented:
is the drive marked as GPT or MBR?
download minitools partition wizard free (https://downloads.tomsguide.com/g00/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Bootable-CD,0301-51034.html?i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLnBzLw%3D%3D&i10c.ua=1), burn it using RUFUS (https://rufus.akeo.ie/)
whgen it boot to partition wizard, check wether it's MBR or GPT

Also, try copying boot files, go to windows recovery (either windows 7 and above work), in command prompt, type:
bcdboot c:\windows /s c:
where c:\windows is the location of boot files, C: is the partition to be marked as boot device.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
thomas- did you read the Q ? i posted the system
jackie - i used paragon disk manager 15 Pro
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Jackie ManConnect With a Mentor Commented:
paragon disk manager 15 Pro is outdated.

paragon disk manager 15 Pro
Logon to my paragon and there should be a free update to Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium SP5.

Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium SP5
If still no go, you need to try with Paragon Hard Disk Manager 16 which is a trial version.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
i don't understand - if 15 is outdated - why is 16 a trial only ??
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Jackie ManCommented:
i don't understand - if 15 is outdated - why is 16 a trial only ??

There are many versions within 15 and the latest version within 15 is Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium SP5.

You should be entitled to free update to Paragon Hard Disk Manager 15 Premium SP5. Just logon to your account in "my Paragon" and you will see the prompt for update.

Paragon Hard Disk Manager 16 is a completely new release and you need to pay a fee to update to Paragon Hard Disk Manager 16.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
is it not free for EE experts??
i'll try the proposed update - but that means redoing the image i take it- right?
her's the updates i see
dmnot sure which one to pick though
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Jackie ManCommented:
is it not free for EE experts??
Yes. But only for the initial version they gifted you. You has been gifted with version 14 and I have been gifted with version 15.

You might need to contact the CS of Paragon for your problem and I believe that they will upgrade your licence free of charge to version 16.

I will try to contact them when I am free.

i'll try the proposed update - but that means redoing the image i take it- right?

Yes. The software is outdated.

Are you cloning a SSD with OS of Win 10?

not sure which one to pick though

Try anyone and you will see further free update available.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
>>  Are you cloning a SSD with OS of Win 10?   <<  yes - and i believe this to be part of the problem
when i reconnect the SSD to the Original rampage board - it does a chkdsk - but never finds an error
i'll try also imaging from windows 7
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Jackie ManCommented:
>>  Are you cloning a SSD with OS of Win 10?   <<  yes - and i believe this to be part of the problem

Yes... It is the problem.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
>>  Yes... It is the problem.   <<   can you explain  that a bit?
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Thomas Zucker-ScharffConnect With a Mentor Systems AnalystCommented:
With win10 you need to have at least paragon hdd 15 sp2. Paragon has upgraded for free my license from 12 through 16. I don't particularly like 16 though.  I went back to using 15sp2.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
Good info Thomas - what didn't you like about the 16 ?
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Thomas Zucker-ScharffSystems AnalystCommented:
Sorry it was SP5.  The interface changed so much that I couldn't find how to clone a disk on a schedule.  Either it isn't there or I couldn't find it.  Either way, I like the interface of 15 better.  I have used virtually everything and the price (free for Certain groups - see PTAC page) along with the usability is perfect, IMHO.  

Sorry about the post earlier.  I missed the part about the system vendor.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
no problem - i often miss things too
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Jackie ManCommented:
I have already mentioned SP5 in the thread of #42473840.
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nobusAuthor Commented:
tx guys - it will take some days before the problem pc returns to me
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nobusAuthor Commented:
ok - i have update paragon disk manager to SP5 and have the same problem the disk images ok - no problems, but does not boot when connected to the Original system - it sees the SSD ok - but no boot
on another system -reboot and select proper boot device
then i opened a command prompt, and ran DISKPART
here the result s of that drive:
Partition 1 System 100MB
Partition 2 Reserved 128 MB  ??? >>  what is this ?
Partition 3 Primary 465 GB
i ran the acive command on Partition 3 and got in return this disk is not a hard disk MBR

this made me think of the 2 other drives in the system - one 2TB drive, and one 8 TB ; of course GPT ones
does this influence the not booting problem ?
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nobusAuthor Commented:
i also tried by disconnecting all other drives - the problem remains
in the mean time i also tried with AOMEI backupper(= same), and am going to try also Casper
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