Backup Software (Seagate) Practices

EE Pros,

I have struggled over the years with backup devices and backup software.  I have some specific questions about a Seagate 4TB drive I just bought.  First of all, while the box sells the device as a cloud enabled solution, the cloud portion requires a separate fee with Seagate instead of a internet connection with the $150 device.  

Here are my questions;

When using the Seagate Dashboard, if you back up your harddrive, you get this incredibly long number that represents a backup.  The way I use to do it is  to have a DATA file on my harddrive and simply copy the DATA file over to a backup drive.  My hunch is that in order to back  up ONLY CHANGES to the Datafile on my harddrive, using the Seagate software, I must put up with the long number rather then  my own file names.  Is that true?  If so, I can select back up at a frequency, for example, "daily" and it should only refresh the changed data. Also, can I restore this data to another Windows 10 system or do I need to image the entire drive?

Any insight into proper tactics in backup and restore procedures would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

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EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
Personally, I wouldn't use the Seagate software for backing up and restoring.
I can recommend a couple of 3rd backup programs if you are interested.
R@f@r P@NC3RVirtualization SpecialistCommented:

Regarding security copies and restoration I recommend using veeam backup is its very complete backup software.

All your environment is physical ?, or you also have virtual servers.

Attached the reference link of veeam backup, you can also download and try it in your environment for 30 days for free.

Another software utility is VRanger Backup. Annex reference link:

Both siver utilities for physical and virtual environments.

I remain attentive to your comments.

Bright01Author Commented:
E & R,

Thanks for the replies.  E, would love some of your recommendations.  R., this backup SW is for my individual laptop and desktop.  This is not a commercial, enterprise use case.... it's a individual, personal use case.

For both of you, do you know of a SW data management utility or toolset that allows you to compare two data files and consolidate them by choosing what stays and what goes?
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EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
I recommend SynchBackPro from
It backs up locked files in most cases and there good error reporting.
You can preview every file that that will deleted/copied before you commit to the final "Run"
They also have a free version:

(I also this - It's quite good

If you want to try other free products, look at this page
Fosshub is a reliable source for free clean software
"No adware, No spyware, No bundles, No malware"
do you know of a SW data management utility or toolset that allows you to compare two data files
Please clarify - indivdual files are compared by name/date/crc

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Bright01Author Commented:

Thanks for the reply and direction.  12 years ago, I had a data file utility that allowed me to look at two files at the same time and drop and drag the right data to the right file and consolidate.  I wish I could remember the name of the Program (actually, I think it was a DOS Program)....but it was effective.

Most of the backup SW today doesn't let the user know what the hell is going on.  I'm testing tonight adding a file and running a update on the Seagate Backup SW that comes standard.  I'm going to see if it simply backs up the changes or re copies all of the files.  After years of being abused by these companies that sell you "shit" and don't explain what takes place, I'm fed up with the results.  So I'll test it tonight.

Again, thanks for the response.  Hopefully I can return the favor.

EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
If I understand you correctly, SynchBack's simulated run will do what you need (It changes nothing).
You can then do the final run if you are happy.
you asked "My hunch is that in order to back  up ONLY CHANGES to the Datafile on my harddrive, "  in order to do this, you need an incremental backup software
most modern backup programs do this - see Syncback as example
personally i don't use it, for following reason : if hou have made 50 backups during several months, and backup portion n° 7 is bad, you loose all coming after that. that's why i s tick to the full backup
EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
In this real life example, my server W: has 120 gigs of data (MIRROR Type Profile)
My USB backup for the server is on E:

I started my backup with SynchBackSE (SyncBackPro is better)
2 minutes later I got the following preview of what SyncBackSE will do.....
2 Minutes to compare 2 drives with 120 gigs each - FAST!The files in green will be copied from source to destination
The files in red will be deleted from the destination.

Green and red for the same file means a file will updated on the destination
(e.g. VBA Temp.txt will be replaced with the newer version)

I then press "Continue Run" as I am happy with the preview.
5 minutes later the backup is complete.
An audio message indicates that there were no errors.
is that your very first backup with syncback?  it cannot copy 120 GB in that time imo
verify what is copied
here a calculator for the time needed :
EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
is that your very first backup with syncback?
Nope! I run it periodically.
(It was probably nearer 3 minutes rather than 5)

Look at the stats (bottom right of the pic)
Skipped/Unchanged files = 233,617
Copied Files = 119

As I said nobus, "this real life example"
ok - then it's fine
RyanHelp DeskCommented:
I would recommend using Google Drive, but it only allows you to backup 15 GB for free or you have to pay for more.  I have also heard good things about
Bright01Author Commented:
Great commentary!  Where/how do I close out this question?
EirmanChief Operations ManagerCommented:
Bright01Author Commented:
Thank you guys so much for the help!  

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