How can I set up Azure for simple storage, which can be used with Veeam B & R?

Hi experts,

I am using Microsoft Azure, which comes with my Partner subscription. I am only using it to set up simple storage under the $100 monthly limit to use with Veeam. The problem is when I set up a simple storage, Veeam does not recognize it during its wizard. If I set up Azure to run the storage as a VM network, it does work with Veeam, but it is too costly, and it is complicated.

Basically, what I am saying is that I am rather clueless when it comes to working with Azure. I am not sure if I am able to contact Microsoft for support; that is doubtful. If someone understands my question, then possibly it can be done here. If not, I may need help one on one remotely to set Azure up properly.

Thanks.
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IvanSystem EngineerCommented:
Hi,

I think that is the only way to do it (VM in Azure with storage attached to it), and that is the way I have tested it and it work's.

Veeam, in version 10, should be able to use Azure as storage for archiving. That would mean you would still use onprem backup and then replicate/ archive that backup to Azure.

Regards,
Ivan.
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Bert2005Author Commented:
Hi Ivan,

Thank you very much for your answer. It confirms what happened with me. I was wondering if I could ask a couple of questions. Without learning everything about Azure, although I should, I am confused why simple storage that I think we be referred to as Blob would not work. It seems like overkill to use a VM. Does this mean that Azure has the ability to back up the VM, therefore, giving more redundancy? What is the advantage of using a VM?

Also, when selecting a VM, there are many to choose from giving different storage amounts, RAM, cores etc. My sense is given that I am a very small company backing up only two VMs makes this less necessary than a Fortune 500 company backing up hundreds of VMs and multiple servers. The default when you go through the wizard is the A2....(I believe). It ends up being around $135.00. I suppose if $35.00 a month is still less than paying for AWS, it is OK. Just seems like I will be allowed a lot more space than I need. Maybe Veeam or Microsoft would have suggestions as to a VM that costs less per month.

Thank you. If you tested just for this answer, I really appreciate it.
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IvanSystem EngineerCommented:
Hi,

I was confused the same way as you last year, when i tried to configure Veeam to use Azure Blob as backup location. Turned out that it was not supported, and the only way i found it can be used, was via VM.
Why VM? Because when you configure storage in Veeam, you have option to add Windows or Linux server (and 2 more options), and that is how you would connect Veeam to Azure.
As said in reply, there will be option to use Azure storage, with new version, but still not in a way like we would like it to be.
Why is it like that..i dont know. There are many backup applications that can be configured to backup to Azure (like Azure backup server - which is free with any amount of Storage that you buy), so i have no idea why it is not possible atm.

If you use Azure VM, it has 3 redundant copies in same datacenter, so yes, you have redundancy.
You can use smallest VM, like A2_v2, which cost like 60$/month. Dont forget that you would need to add some additional storage, and the price would go up. And one more, very important thing, transfer of data to Azure is free, but transfer of data from Azure to your computer is charged. First 5GB/month are free, but everything else is charged.
In short, you backup 500Gb of data to Azure VM, your servers go down, and you need to restore them from Azure backup.
When you download 500Gb of data, you would have to pay for 495Gb. Use Azure calculator to calculate cost.

Regards,
Ivan.
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Bert2005Author Commented:
That is an amazing answer on so many levels. First, just knowing there is another person out there who was in the same predicament is somewhat reassuring. I suppose I am not too worried about the download of data as it will have quite a few backups using Forever Forward to the Backup Server and Rotate to external hard drives daily with Copy Backup. Copy Backup will also be the process to back up to Azure.  

Of course, I should keep in mind data size and download as Veeam Support's engineers are considering setting up Azure with G/F/S. I have found Veeam support to be incredible, going past technical support but working with you on backup strategies, etc. But, while the forums might help me in the way you are, Veeam support will help set up and support Azure, but they aren't going to set up Azure for you. In fact, the person helping me who is highly knowledgeable can set up the backups TO the storage on Azure, but even told me he has no clue about the inner workings of Azure.

It's interesting because as someone told me once, IT techs can be hard to understand at times not because of what they are teaching at the moment, but because they assume you have the basic knowledge and language they are building on or talking about. That is exactly what happened today listening to a lecturer on PluralSight about Azure. It was relatively straightforward, but because I am rather clueless in Powershell and he ran through subnets and VPNs to multiple subnets within resource managers as if I knew them cold, I just couldn't follow. In other words, the Introduction to Azure turned out to be Azure for the IT Pro.

Anyway, I am rambling here. Thanks for the help.
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