ESXI 6.0 on Dell R410

Has anyone successfully installed and run esxi 6.0 U3 on a Dell R410? It is not on the HCL because is was not tested, but they say it might still work.
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timgreen7077Exchange EngineerCommented:
I have not not but this server is a business class server so I would bet that it would work for you. If you currently have a different version running that hardware, it's highly unlikely that you can't upgrade to esxi 6.0 U3 even though it's not on the HCL.
I actually have 4 Dell 990 desktops not servers with esxi 6.0 running on them just fine, so I'm pretty confident you will not have any issues with the R410 server.
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sshield4Author Commented:
Thank you. That is what we are hoping, but maybe there is someone out there who actually has upgraded a R430.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Do you have a R410 or R430 (that's on HCL!)

Because it's not on the HCL and not certified does not mean it may not work.

Just Dell have decided they would rather sell you new hardware!

Scientifically, when did it last appear on the HCL....

Key factors include CPU, Network and Storage Controller, there were specific processors which were dropped from ESXi 5.5 to 6.0, and it now gets worse with 6.5 and 6.7.

Your CPU is fine for 6.0, 6.5.

and network interface and storage controller is probably okay as well...
To be honest with you, it only takes 7 minutes to install.... or are you upgrading....
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sshield4Author Commented:
Well, it is an upgrade to a production server, so if it fails we have a lot of work to do to put things back.
Thank you for the details.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
No you don't, you just reboot the server, and select R to Recover, and it rolls back to ESXi 5.5.

Is this a single server, or more than one server, simple environment ?

another method is

1. Backup the existing configuration of ESXi 5.5. (make sure you have the installation media for current build, record current build, and obtain patches for build etc)

2. Deploy update...

3. Either Rollback above.

4. Re-install, Re-apply Configuration - Done.

The same risk, as applying any security update to your server....

You have patched for Spectre and Meltdown ?

What you have to establish as an organisation is the RISK of running ESXi 6.0 on an unsupported server, with no VMware Support!

Do you have valid Support and Subscription....
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sshield4Author Commented:
I didn't know it rolls back! Thank you so much.
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sshield4Author Commented:
Will the roll back option appear only after the first reboot? It might be that it takes a few days/weeks  for problems with the VMs to appear.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
No it's always there, until you use it...

You are more likely to be aware of an issue after first boot, e.g with Host Hardware issues, e.g. PSOD...

network card not working, storage controller not working, crashing...

very rare, a VM would have issues with hypervisor version.

BUT that could be seen as RISK of unsupported Host hardware!

If after upgrade, the host reboots, every week.......what do you do, stay on 5.5 forever it's end of life in Sept.

So no support for ESXi or Host hardware - Double RISK!
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sshield4Author Commented:
Thanks so much.
I'll leave this open for another day, just in case someone viewing this has actually put 6 on an R410, but if not  it seems we could safely try it off hours.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Look at this list

https://www.virten.net/2015/03/vmware-esxi-6-0-unsupported-hardware/

We have ESXi 6.0 running on Dell R2900 and Dell 2950, and these were last supported on 5.5 also.. and older than Dell R410!
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sshield4Author Commented:
That is good to know!
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sshield4Author Commented:
I called in to VMware and they confirmed that if I put 6.0 on unsupported hardware, it won't be supported. So we might as well leave it on 5.5.
Thanks so much for all your insight.
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sshield4Author Commented:
Upgrading will not keep us under support if the hardware is not listed as supported.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Yes its a sorry state is your are often forced by vendors to move to a supported platform.

You may need to look at a replacement server in the future.
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