Dell Precision 3000 specs inquiry

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.  This computer needs to host quickbooks, standard basic office apps will be installed and used on it; and other computers will sometimes remote desktop into it.   This computer is obviously overkill but we want Dell RAID 1 controller redundancy.  Is there a more reasonable Dell spec with real significant saving to be had.  I'm not just saying let's reduce quantity in these items to save a couple hundred bucks.  I'm thinking RAID redundancy but more like a $1000 dell tower.  PS - We do need the dual display port video card included.  Anyway, your thoughts?

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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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We use a desktop without RAID and keep the company file on the local server.
You want the two monitors.
For QB and Basic Office work, 8GB will suffice handily. No need for 32 GB.
So your choice about RAID as that is where some savings could be had.
Top Expert 2016
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you could add a perc raid card from fleabay for about the $100 mark and a decent video card and a few 2TB drives for about the $500 mark

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PERC-H700-RAID-CARD-XXFVX-0XXFVX-W-512MB-CACHE-BATTERY/152554188393?hash=item2384f02e69:g:7MoAAOSwurZZHwBL
ok, I revised the quote for SATA and a more basic video card.  I had some problems with Precision RAID 1 setup before.  Anyone know if there RAID cards are more stable or should I specify a certain PERC card?

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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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You should use the Dell Controller card as it will be covered by Dell support. A non-Dell controller card may not be. The Dell card should be decent.

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Does anyone know if the Dell RAID card in the Precisions are more stable now in the past?  Has anyone experienced issues of late with the mirror RAID setup in the Precision?
Top Expert 2016

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In the picture you show, there is NO Raid Card, it is using the Intel fakeraid controller. And there is no PCIe x 8 port for a real raid card. You would have to go to the tower server products to get this.

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Can you elaborate more on the cons of having poser RAID?  It sounds like the best route is to buy this PCI-e add-on card through Amazon and we will install it.

Dell 512MB PERC H700 Raid Controller by Dell for $69.99 https://amzn.to/2sj4WV
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And there is no PCIe x8 port for a real raid card. There is an X4 slot though
http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/precision-t3420-workstation_owners-manual_en-us.pdf
you will also need mSASx4 (SFF-8087) to SATA (4)" cables

Microsoft's software RAID 1 is better than the fakeraid sub-$1 "raid" chips

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ok, so that card won't work?  I see the System board components from your link.  What RAID card do you recommend with those cables you suggested?

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PCI Express x16 Gen 3 slot
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PCI Express x4 slo
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Video card goes into the x16 slot normally.  

Personally I do not like using Dell/HP/Lenovo desktops as their extreme cost cutting results in non standard components  and the loss of the option to replace parts with standard off the shelf components.

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Welp, I need a suggestion for a RAID card on the PCI Express x4 slot.

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Will this work?

x4 RAID Card

Cables
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Commented:
Likely.  Customer that obtained one was very happy with it.

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Can someone else respond with real value?
Top Expert 2016
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Cables = for power yes but you also need data cables using a Mini SAS to SATA Cable (SFF-8087 to SATA Forward Breakout) cable
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Beautiful, thanks!!!  I will probably leave this open to let you know how the install goes.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Also do not forget that your question was about computer specs which has been answered and. not just about RAID

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My computer specs weren't answered.  You mentioned RAM.  That was $50 to $100 worth of savings...  My initial disclaimer  " I'm not just saying let's reduce quantity in these items to save a couple hundred bucks"   I wanted hand holding on how to accomplish real savings before the initial quote is crazy.   Then you digress about something about RAID but not providing any value for me to move forward with this project.  I learned a lot from David expert knowledge throughout this process.

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Take away...  Software RAID stinks.  Dell Precisions have them.  Make sure you have a compatible PCIe X
slot and cables if you upgrade the RAID
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Add a battery and write caching and it's perfect

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