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looking for an m2 SSD adapter
i need to test an m2 SSD on another desktop
i assume i best use an adapter card, but which
here the specs of the SSD : http://www.liteonssd.com/en/PRODUCT/CONSUMER-SATA-SSD/CONSUMER-M2-SATA/zeta-m2.html
can you suggest me a good one, with affordable price?
i think about buying this one : https://www.alternate.nl/StarTech-x4-PCI-Express-to-M-2-PCIe-SSD-adapter/html/product/1348713
or this one for usb : https://www.codima.be/startech-external-usb-3-0-sata-m-2-ssd-enclosure
any pro or cons for both are welcome
w10 compatible of course
i assume i best use an adapter card, but which
here the specs of the SSD : http://www.liteonssd.com/en/PRODUCT/CONSUMER-SATA-SSD/CONSUMER-M2-SATA/zeta-m2.html
can you suggest me a good one, with affordable price?
i think about buying this one : https://www.alternate.nl/StarTech-x4-PCI-Express-to-M-2-PCIe-SSD-adapter/html/product/1348713
or this one for usb : https://www.codima.be/startech-external-usb-3-0-sata-m-2-ssd-enclosure
any pro or cons for both are welcome
w10 compatible of course
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M.2 is a form factor similar to 2.5 inch , 3.5 inch etc. SATA and NVMe are completely different protocols, SATA you are probably well aware of, NVMe is the PCI Express bus used for storage, it is very fast but it is not compatible with SATA.
D'oh, the link I posted doesn't work but look at the photos on this page - one socket says PCIe M.2 and the other two say SATA M.2. You cannot plug a SATA M.2 device into a PCIe/NVMe socket. Look at the copper traces on the picture of the PCIe/NVMe socket, they go straight to the PCIe connector. Or look at the traces on the single port one you posted, they also go straight from the socket to the PCIe connector.
https://www.cclonline.com/product/216855/PEXM2SAT32N1/IDE-SATA-SCSI-Cards/StarTech-com-3-Port-M-2-SSD-NGFF-Adapter-Card-1-x-PCIe-NVMe-M-2-2-x-SATA-III-M-2-PCIe-3-0/NET2565/
There are M.2 slots that take both SATA and NVMe, they are generally used in laptops. The connections use different pins so the SATA ones go to the chipset SATA ports and the NVMe ones go to the processor chip. The sockets are keyed so you can't plug the wrong one in - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 has some good line drawings of the slots.
D'oh, the link I posted doesn't work but look at the photos on this page - one socket says PCIe M.2 and the other two say SATA M.2. You cannot plug a SATA M.2 device into a PCIe/NVMe socket. Look at the copper traces on the picture of the PCIe/NVMe socket, they go straight to the PCIe connector. Or look at the traces on the single port one you posted, they also go straight from the socket to the PCIe connector.
https://www.cclonline.com/product/216855/PEXM2SAT32N1/IDE-SATA-SCSI-Cards/StarTech-com-3-Port-M-2-SSD-NGFF-Adapter-Card-1-x-PCIe-NVMe-M-2-2-x-SATA-III-M-2-PCIe-3-0/NET2565/
There are M.2 slots that take both SATA and NVMe, they are generally used in laptops. The connections use different pins so the SATA ones go to the chipset SATA ports and the NVMe ones go to the processor chip. The sockets are keyed so you can't plug the wrong one in - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2 has some good line drawings of the slots.
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aahhrg - thanks for pointing that out, and saving me from making an error
I think Paul MacDonald made the same error, USB3 is comparable speed to SATA.
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>> D'oh, the link I posted doesn't work but look at the photos on this page - << are you referring to the photo's of the bad link, or what link? not sure
that should probably explain your next phrase "Look at the copper traces on the picture of the PCIe/NVMe socket, they go straight to the PCIe connector."
that should probably explain your next phrase "Look at the copper traces on the picture of the PCIe/NVMe socket, they go straight to the PCIe connector."
The link under "This one does both". It was the same Startech 3 port card as in the next post I made but it was 4 lines long so I tried to embed it.
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Yes, I would buy that one that does both, you only need SATA this time but next time you may need NVMe.
DeLOCK do similar, https://www.alternate.nl/DeLOCK/PCIe-x4-1x-M-2-KeyB-1x-M-2-KeyM-converter/html/product/1339683?event=search has one of each NVMe and SATA for example.
Note there's no electronics on any of these cards, they're just pass-throughs.
DeLOCK do similar, https://www.alternate.nl/DeLOCK/PCIe-x4-1x-M-2-KeyB-1x-M-2-KeyM-converter/html/product/1339683?event=search has one of each NVMe and SATA for example.
Note there's no electronics on any of these cards, they're just pass-throughs.
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no i need the nVME, see the liteon doc in the Q
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all be ….. - now i see i did misunderstand allthat - post specs of an NVMe card please to compare
i thought it was the connector style and protocol
i thought it was the connector style and protocol
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/500gb-samsung-970-evo-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-ssd-phoenix-mlc-v-nand-3400mb-s-read-2300mb-s-write-37?gclid=CjwKCAjw06LZBRBNEiwA2vgMVatUxaLPh5gVS7g1rYiO_PRlxA_-E2dCqNRgBdF960qKOg-Srp1iDRoC-FYQAvD_BwE
You can see the read speed is faster because of the NVMe bus and the key/notch is also different so stop you from putting it in a SATA only M.2 socket.
You can see the read speed is faster because of the NVMe bus and the key/notch is also different so stop you from putting it in a SATA only M.2 socket.
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understanding things properly does help !
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could i ask if there are adapters that support both styles? NMVe and Sata ?
We already covered that,
https://www.cclonline.com/product/216855/PEXM2SAT32N1/IDE-SATA-SCSI-Cards/StarTech-com-3-Port-M-2-SSD-NGFF-Adapter-Card-1-x-PCIe-NVMe-M-2-2-x-SATA-III-M-2-PCIe-3-0/NET2565/
DeLOCK do similar, https://www.alternate.nl/DeLOCK/PCIe-x4-1x-M-2-KeyB-1x-M-2-KeyM-converter/html/product/1339683?event=search has one of each NVMe and SATA for example.
https://www.cclonline.com/product/216855/PEXM2SAT32N1/IDE-SATA-SCSI-Cards/StarTech-com-3-Port-M-2-SSD-NGFF-Adapter-Card-1-x-PCIe-NVMe-M-2-2-x-SATA-III-M-2-PCIe-3-0/NET2565/
DeLOCK do similar, https://www.alternate.nl/DeLOCK/PCIe-x4-1x-M-2-KeyB-1x-M-2-KeyM-converter/html/product/1339683?event=search has one of each NVMe and SATA for example.
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sorry - i did not realise they had both
as usual - you're too good for me
which one has your preference?
as usual - you're too good for me
which one has your preference?
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Andy, why does the 1st link not work?
it says "Ondersteunt PCIe M.2 SSD's
De adapter ondersteunt PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe (M-toets) en PCIe-AHCI M.2 SSD's inclusief 2242, 2260, 2280 en 22110 schijven"
this = supports PCIe M2 drives