Can an expiration date on an embedded chip in an ink cartridge be set back in the Registry Keys so that it will not time out prematurely?
Years ago I made the horrible decision to purchase the a Kodak Printer. The one with the chip that will time out after several months and stop working. While I was using the product I noticed that every time I used it the printer would not work. I thought the cartridge had dried up. The problem of course is the embedded chip was timing out. I relied on it less and less and eventually stopped using it all together. Purchasing the other Printer I the HP LaserJet M1217 MFP nwf which is still broken but may be fixed soon thanks to the forum. Now having found out through youtube videos what the actual problem was and how to solve it. Replace the chip refill the ink cartridges where needed. Most do not need the refill it is just the timeout of the cartridges. I have a different strategy now and many extra cartridges. My question is since the Chip embedded in the cartridge times out with an expiration date or number of expired hours that the PC is on....I leave the PC the Kodak Printer is connected to on 24/7 because it is a server I access remotely and for development.
So can you go into the registry Keys and modify the Chip Timeout Date or Hour as the case may be. I wondered if anyone knew that. I am planning on using the printer more often now that I have faith and found a solution to the issue here at Wal-Mart. Universal Ink Cartridge Refill
If this can be done please let me know. Thank you.
So can you go into the registry Keys and modify the Chip Timeout Date or Hour as the case may be. I wondered if anyone knew that. I am planning on using the printer more often now that I have faith and found a solution to the issue here at Wal-Mart. Universal Ink Cartridge Refill
If this can be done please let me know. Thank you.
arnold is correct, the information does not reach your PC, this is all done entirely within the printer.
Each cartridge chip has a unique ID# and the printer rather than the computer records this BUT also records page count on the chip. An "empty" cartridge has this state written to its chip so even if you move it to a different printer that hasn't met the cartridge previously the "empty" status take precedence over the cartridge ID#. The printer can only "remember" the last 8-10 ID#s so you could cycle them but as you've discovered with the Walmart link the other way to do this is simply to have multiple clone chips with the page count zeroed. Currently standard chip resetters won't work with Kodak cartridges because the empty status is recorded in a separate location from most manufacturers.
There's a separate issue with Kodak cartridges which is that on most ink cartridges the print head is integrated into the cartridge so you replace both. With Kodak the cartridge is purely the ink reservoir, the print head is permanently attached. This becomes an issue if the ink dries out or is completely empty as then you will get air locks in the print head feed significantly degrading print quality. Kodak often use this as a justification for calling cartridges empty early but from a user perspective if they had integrated the print head it wouldn't be an issue.
You do need to keep a close eye on low ink levels though otherwise you'll permanently damage the print heads
Each cartridge chip has a unique ID# and the printer rather than the computer records this BUT also records page count on the chip. An "empty" cartridge has this state written to its chip so even if you move it to a different printer that hasn't met the cartridge previously the "empty" status take precedence over the cartridge ID#. The printer can only "remember" the last 8-10 ID#s so you could cycle them but as you've discovered with the Walmart link the other way to do this is simply to have multiple clone chips with the page count zeroed. Currently standard chip resetters won't work with Kodak cartridges because the empty status is recorded in a separate location from most manufacturers.
There's a separate issue with Kodak cartridges which is that on most ink cartridges the print head is integrated into the cartridge so you replace both. With Kodak the cartridge is purely the ink reservoir, the print head is permanently attached. This becomes an issue if the ink dries out or is completely empty as then you will get air locks in the print head feed significantly degrading print quality. Kodak often use this as a justification for calling cartridges empty early but from a user perspective if they had integrated the print head it wouldn't be an issue.
You do need to keep a close eye on low ink levels though otherwise you'll permanently damage the print heads
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I am going to have to question this and I rarely do this with you guys cause I consider you much more knowledgeable than me. I have several YouTube Videos I came to believe and (I still believe I could be wrong even as I am looking for the videos now) Might take a bit as I have to listen to them all. Consequently maybe those guys on YouTube are clueless as well and they don't know. They may be assuming? Does YouTube have a checks and balance system for inaccuracies?
What I got from the videos was that the chip controlled it all by either number of uses or by time elapse because I retained several cartridges and they all timed out either prematurely or must have dried up? ( I did have a ceiling fan in my office that was there to circulate air .... thought about getting it a vinyl cover because I wondered if it was drying them out?) But honestly to me that seemed illogical because the fan was not really moving air directly on the printer...? My point is that I would get a cartridge and use it very little and it would be out in no time. I know I cannot go through a cartridge that quickly.
I did just purchase that kit and should have ample ink. Maybe I can test it some how. Ink with fan vs ink with no fan. Might take a few weeks but might help here?
I hate to question you guys but are you 100% sure there is no expiration date, elapsed timeout or number of uses to timeout? I do not want to test this and spend weeks only to find out you were not sure? Please do not take offense. In this world sometimes you have to question even the experts. Been to see a doctor lately...? They will hand you a pill faster than you can pull your pants up. When all your really needed was to move your "arse" (Scottish Version) and cut back on the Pizza Beer or Soda....!
What I got from the videos was that the chip controlled it all by either number of uses or by time elapse because I retained several cartridges and they all timed out either prematurely or must have dried up? ( I did have a ceiling fan in my office that was there to circulate air .... thought about getting it a vinyl cover because I wondered if it was drying them out?) But honestly to me that seemed illogical because the fan was not really moving air directly on the printer...? My point is that I would get a cartridge and use it very little and it would be out in no time. I know I cannot go through a cartridge that quickly.
I did just purchase that kit and should have ample ink. Maybe I can test it some how. Ink with fan vs ink with no fan. Might take a few weeks but might help here?
I hate to question you guys but are you 100% sure there is no expiration date, elapsed timeout or number of uses to timeout? I do not want to test this and spend weeks only to find out you were not sure? Please do not take offense. In this world sometimes you have to question even the experts. Been to see a doctor lately...? They will hand you a pill faster than you can pull your pants up. When all your really needed was to move your "arse" (Scottish Version) and cut back on the Pizza Beer or Soda....!
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Does anyone know if a low volume of air circulated around a printer would cause the cartridges to dry out or subsequently stop working thinking it was out of ink. When in reality I really had not used it much at all?
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That will help many of us who do not have a clue so thank you.
The chip seems to count usage and based on that estimate remaining ink in the cartridge to avoid trying to print when the cartridge is empty.
several remedies included eliminating the counting functionality, but in this case, you have to keep track and not to print when the ink is low where you might print with the cartridge is empty......at which point the cartridge will likely be done.