Can't access a Windows 10 machine on a home/work netowrk

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I have a home/work network with 3 Dell machines. Two machine running Windows 7 Pro and now one running Windows 10 Pro. I installed Windows 10 on the one machine yesterday. But now I cannot get the W10 machine to connect to the home/work network so the other machines can share files and folders. I did all the usual stuff...turn on network sharing...file and print sharing...added the W10 machine to the Workgroup...but still I cannot access it form the other machines. I thought W10 was supposed to be easier. What am I missing?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Commented:
Make sure, on the two Windows 7 machines, in Network and Sharing center, that Homegroup is turned off and password protected sharing is on. Windows 10 has eliminated home group.

On Windows 10, open a command prompt:

NET USE T: \\IPaddressofWindows7\folder and authenticate.  What numerical error do you get?

What antivirus are you using?  Is there a firewall blocking the connection?
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Commented:
Also, did you update Windows 7 so it is no longer using SMBv1?   Windows 10 does not use SMBv1.
Wayne BarronAuthor, Web Developer
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Commented:
Windows 10 is a pain in the a** for getting it to work with the network.
Makes me want to install Windows 2016 Servers on everything as they rock for getting the network shares working.

So, a few things to check on.

Control Panel | Administrator Tools | Services
Find
Function Discovery Resource Publication

Set it to Automatic.
Then Start

Do this to all systems.
You will need to reboot each system you do this too, for it to go into effect.
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Before I try any of those thing mentioned, this is what "network and sharing" screen looks like. Is this even right?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Commented:
To your question, yes. Go to the Advanced Link to see the settings.

Also, review all the settings in my Article on Folder Sharing (works for Vista, Seven Eight and Ten).
https://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/16639/Folder-sharing-on-modern-machines.html

If you are using different user names on each machine, you may need to set up the user name and password in Users and Groups of that machine trying to connect, on the target machine.

Make sure you are not trying to map C$ or D$

Check SMBv1 on the Windows 7 machines

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2696547/how-to-detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-smbv2-and-smbv3-in-windows-and
Joseph HornseyPresident and Janitor

Commented:
John's comment is spot on.

One thing people forget is that with Windows 10 you can no longer use blank passwords or anonymous connections to connect over the network.

You have to make sure you have matching user names and passwords on the machines that are connecting to each other.

This is fine with you have just a couple of machines in a workgroup.  Just set the accounts so that their passwords never expire and be done with it.

If you have a lot of computers, this is where you put in a server with Active Directory, etc. so you can consolidate authentication, access to resources, etc.

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Im starting to regret putting W10 on this machine., but I'll give this a shot.

Maybe this will help...here is my layout

I have 3 machines:
Computer name: nxtd03  Username: Station_03 with Win7 installed
Computer name: nxtd05  Username: Station_05 with Win10 installed
Computer name: nxtd06  Username: Station_06 with Win 7 installed

When they were all Win7, I shared files & folders and was able to remote from anyone one machine to any of the others. I used NO passwords for any of the machines by using the Autologon feature.

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and....All three are part of Workgroup: NXTDINC
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Commented:
Windows 10 requires passwords now so you need to institute user names and passwords.
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Some thoughts to consider over Labour Day.

1. Read my Folder Sharing article completely and review all the concepts given.
2. Change your thinking:  Home Group is gone, Passwords are now de rigeur and essentially obligatory. Use them.
3. If your machines have different usernames, set up "other user names and passwords on each machine. Users and groups.
4. Check your Anti Virus. Kaspersky protects by cutting off access and you must configure it.
5. Some routers put wired and wireless machines on different subnets. Dumb in a small or home environment.
6. Check firewall settings.
7. Map folders, do not browse as even browsing is no longer guaranteed
Joseph HornseyPresident and Janitor

Commented:
Use username and passwords that match on each machine.

So, create a user called "user" with a password "Password1" on every machine.  Make that user a member of Administrators.  Log on as "user" on each machine to work on it.

Done.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Thank you and I trust your access worked properly.

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