50% of RAM at IDLE...

Hello Community Members...

When I "put on" My Notebook (Lenovo IdeaPad 330s 14IKB Model 81F4)

Looked at Task Manager and the RAM said at IDLE with NO programmes opened WAS AT 50% USE !

SURELY this is not right and some application(s) MUST BE? Using that resource

All help VALUED and advice and opinion Appreciated with this current enquiry

Best Ever

Paul M
Grey Matter One"Digital EPA" Executive Professional AssistantAsked:
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Seth SimmonsSr. Systems AdministratorCommented:
how much memory is installed?
have you sorted by memory usage to see what is the biggest consumer?
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Martyn SpencerSoftware Developer / Linux System Administrator / Managing DirectorCommented:
A modern computer is always running programs. It will have various programs operating, even though you may not have any applications running. Some of these may be services and others may be applications that are running in the background (these will often have started automatically with Windows). A common devourer of memory is anti-virus or any other form of security software. As Seth above suggests, looking at processes that are running and sorting by memory can help you identify what is using the memory.
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timgreen7077Exchange EngineerCommented:
I would suggest you disable applications that run on startup and they run in the background. Open the taskmgr > More Details > Startup,
and there you will see the applications that run at startup. Select each application the click disable unless its something you need to run in the background, but alot of apps love to be running in the background when its not needed, and this can consume memory. Disable those apps and reboot windows. You should see a drop in idle RAM usage also, but virus programs can definitely take up memory.
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Owen RubinConsultantCommented:
As has been discussed here, an Operating System can easily use 50% or more of the available RAM depending on how much RAM is in the system, and what tasks are running besides programs.  You can get an idea of that alone just by right clicking on the task bar and select Start Task Manager. Want to see what is actually running, click on the Processes tab and then Show Processes from All Users.  You might be surprised at just what is going on when "idle."  If there are things running that you just do not need to be running all the time, follow Timgreen7077's advice above  to turn them off.

You can also click on the service tab, and see what services have been started with the system. If you see services you do not need, you can press the Services button, and see a list of all services where you can switch them to manual or disabled ( "off") by double-clicking on any service you do not need. Be careful, if you are not sure what a service does, best to leave it alone. As an example, I do not fax from my computer, yet I found the FAX service turned on
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
4 GB or less will run at or near 50% with little running. 6 GB or more will use 25% or less

You may have a 32-bit OS which is limited to 3 GB
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Robert LemMrCommented:
50% on a constant basis is way too much if you have a minimum of 4GB of RAM. Even though a computer is always running programs, none of my computers on large network runs 50%, even with some programs open. I assume you looked at the processes running in task manager but couldn't find what process is taking that much memory, and that you sorted the processes by memory usage.

Task manager won't show you all. Install Process Explorer and RamMap from SysInternals
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/ . This should help you find what's going on. With these free tools you should be able to locate the process that is taking half your RAM.
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
We need an answer on 32-bit vs 64-bit OS as well.
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Grey Matter One"Digital EPA" Executive Professional AssistantAuthor Commented:
Hello ALL Community Members...

Thank You SO MUCH ALL for your detailed and informative answers and opinions and advice...

This IS MOST WELCOME ! Thank You

I have a 64 Bit OS with 4GB of RAM Pre-Installed

Purchased the Notebook several weeks ago...

Will LOOK at what You EXPERTS have said and get back to You ASAP (Within 24 hours latest ???)

Best Alwayz

Paul M
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Grey Matter One"Digital EPA" Executive Professional AssistantAuthor Commented:
Hello Community Members...

I looked at The Processes Tab but COULD NOT find what is pulling the resources the HIGHEST was Anti Malware Services Executable at 71.4 MB



On The StartUp Tab little is running and think ALL is needed

The Users Tab (Am the ONLY Person Operating The Machine Currently) is drawing about 3/4 GB



Not sure what the 52 Items are for...????

Checked The Services Tab but was unable to know how MANY were ON but some were STOPPED as well

Will LOOK at this LINK/RESOURCE (what Robert Lem has said) and get back to You Guyz within 72 hours from now (99.0% Sure)

Best ALWAYS Much VALUED !

Paul M
Task Manager - StartUp TabTask Manager - Users Tab
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Owen RubinConsultantCommented:
Paul,

I have a 64-bit machine with 8 GB of memory and it is almost always 50% used at idle.  Granted I have a number of services running. Maybe the best solution is to consider  doubling  your memory. It is not that expensive these days.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
4GB is a little low these days.  I don't recommend anyone get less than 6 and prefer 8.  

Look at the details tab - it provides greater usage detail and make sure you're running as an administrator.

And 57% in my opinion, especially when you only have 4GB, is not too bad. As has been stated, Windows (and any modern operating system) will have many little programs that sit idle waiting for you to need them.  Things like Antivirus, the printing subsystem, the login system, the parts of Windows that provide you with a graphical way to interact, the parts that provide automatic updates, etc.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Oh, and many third party programs will "pre-load" portions of themselves to help them start faster should you need them.  Acrobat Reader for example.
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nobusCommented:
i would upgrade the ram; specs say you can upgrade to 12 GB
i suppose that means 4 GB fixed ram, and an additional 8 GB possible
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
In task manager, sort by Memory (not Startup) and see what is being used.

4 GB is low for a 64-bit operating system so upgrade that if you can.

Any laptop will use more than 50 processes if doing useful work.

Finally please tell us if 32-bit or 64-bit operating system
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Grey Matter One"Digital EPA" Executive Professional AssistantAuthor Commented:
>Finally please tell us if 32-bit or 64-bit operating system

John it's a 64 Bit OS

PLEASE check in My previous post earlier with reply to just that lol


Best Always

Paul M
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
So add memory to the machine. An 8 GB machine will run 20-25% memory in normal use (looking at my own and client machines)
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
And by the way I missed that line about bit strength in your earlier post. Sorry about that
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NerdsOfTechTechnology ScientistCommented:
Turn off SUPERFETCH and WINDOWS SEARCH services. They are the main culprit of memory usage while idle.

  • Hold the Windows Key, while pressing “R” to bring up the Run dialog box.
  • Type “services.msc“, then press “Enter“.
  • The Services window displays. Find “Superfetch” in the list.
  • Right-click “Superfetch“, then select “Properties“.
  • Select the “Stop” button if you wish to stop the service. In the “Startup type” dropdown menu, choose “Disabled“.

Do the same thing for Windows Search.
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Grey Matter One"Digital EPA" Executive Professional AssistantAuthor Commented:
Hello ALL Community Members...

THANK YOU ALL FOR SO MUCH ADVICE AND INPUT...

>Turn off SUPERFETCH and WINDOWS SEARCH services. They are the main culprit of memory usage while idle.
• Hold the Windows Key, while pressing “R” to bring up the Run dialog box.
• Type “services.msc“, then press “Enter“.
• The Services window displays. Find “Superfetch” in the list.
• Right-click “Superfetch“, then select “Properties“.
• Select the “Stop” button if you wish to stop the service. In the “Startup type” dropdown menu, choose “Disabled“.
Do the same thing for Windows Search.

Followed You "NerdsofTech"

Stopped those services BUT still 50% RAM...

Mr.Robert Lem...

Your POST IS SPOT ON with those links bout "SysInternals" EXCELLENT could NOT find out WHY ??? But WILL READ the Help Files EVENTAULLY does not yet anyway slow down My Computer Kit lol...

How DO I make the Help File Text LARGER Please...

Thank You Specialists...

Best EVER...

Paul M
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