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Veeam vs Avamar ?

We presently have two UCS and EMC data domain systems.  One of them is in our colo and the other is our site.  We wanted to verify the pros/cons with going with either Avamar or Veeam or possibly another solution to replicate data and especially our virtual machines.  Our EMC data domain houses about 1 TB of data although our capacity is between 25 or 30 TB.  

Can someone offer some suggestions as well as alternatives to Avamar and Veeam?  Price will be a big concern as well.
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Veeam, it works!

and does not have a complicated Repo system like Avamar, which gets corrupted very easily requiring EMC/Avamar Engineers to tell you to Restore your backups and create a new repo, because the Avamark Repo has become corrupted!
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Thanks for the input.  Are there any other players in the field I can use besides Avamar and Veeam?
I like Altaro very much.  But they are raising their prices somewhat on October 1.
Actually, I'm not sure if they do replication - they do VM backup for both VMWare and Hyper-V
Veeam/Altaro for backup and replication. Avamar strictly for backup only, see Andrew's comment about their reliability
What are you using at the moment, Data Domain's inbuilt replication?
Netbackup is also a good option considering the reliability when it comes to avamar..
netbackup doesn't do replication of virtual machines
check this one, I tried it some year ago, I know it's growing now and come with features close to veeam B&R : https://www.nakivo.com/fr/vmware-backup/
But I would go to Veeam too.
>netbackup doesn't do replication of virtual machines

EMC Data Domain doesn't host virtual machines, it's a backup appliance.
Hi.

First if the aim is just to replicate 2 sites, or Storage, something like
Avamar is the ideal. Even with some if the issues, is still very good.
But very expensive.

But is the goal is to backup or replicate the Virtual Encironment with restore image level, file level, then a virtual backup solution is the ideal. Because something like avamar doesn’t fit here.

There is some products in the market that do great job regarding Backup & Replication of your Virtual Environment.

Of course Veeam will be in the top of all as the best product.

I wrote an article some time ago about backup free tools, that could also provide some information that you. Since I detail all features from each one.

https://www.provirtualzone.com/free-virtual-backups-tools/

Hope this could help.
I'll agree with Veeam, we run that and two data domains, the data domains handle the replication.  Only downside is that we use the DD for direct backup storage so some veeam features dont work, like surebackup dont work well, as the recovery from the  the DD220 is slow.  So we need to introduce another tier at some point to backup to and test.
At last, someone who understands what (EMC) Data Domain is and isn't.
Correct, Avamar is just a replication of a Storage from point A to point B. All features that modern Virtual Backup Tools have, is not possible with Avamar.
Lol, I actually like the Data Domains, we pretty much got them free with a new SAN, but as a backup target they are great and dedup and compress well.  But they do have some limitations.  IF I get bored I should just setup the old SAN as a backup target for testing DR scenarios.
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