Office 2019 availability through Office 365

When will Office 2019 be available through Office 365?
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Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
Office 2019 is available now through Office 365.
I think that is incorrect. Office 365 still has Office 2016.
When will Office 2019 be available through Office 365?
Only Microsoft can answer that and they're not saying. There has been no announcement from MS on it.
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
I do not have Office 365 subscription for MS Office but my common sense makes me to believe that Microsoft will not allocate resources to update both Office 2016 and Office 2019 at the same time for Office 365. I assume that the author asks about Office 365 for Business or Enterprise Plans.

I believe Office 365 version 1809 or later is Office 2019 and there is no need for announcement as Office 365 is an update-centric product.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/monthly-channel-2018#version-1811-december-11

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-office-2019
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Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
> I do not have Office 365 subscription for MS Office

I do. The desktop apps currently offered in it are Office 2016. I also have Office 2019, which is a non-subscription product only, not available in any Office 365 plan.

> but my common sense makes me to believe that Microsoft will not allocate resources to update both Office 2016 and Office 2019 at the same time for Office 365

I'm sure that's correct, but the point is that Office 2016, not Office 2019, is currently the version that is in the Office 365 plans that include the Office desktop apps.

> I believe Office 365 version 1809 or later is Office 2019

I believe that's wrong. Office 2016 is the version that is in the Office 365 plans that include the Office desktop apps.

> and there is no need for announcement

Sure there is. Customers would like to know when they transition from Office 2016 to Office 2019 as the version that is in the Office 365 plans that include the Office desktop apps, same as when they transitioned from Office 2013 to Office 2016.

Regards, Joe
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
@Joe

Have you checked the version and build number of MS Office?

Are you using Office 365 Business or Enterprise?
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
> Have you checked the version and build number of MS Office?

Version 1803 Build 9126.2336

> Are you using Office 365 Business or Enterprise?

Office 365 Home

Clicking on Update Options>View Updates goes to this page:

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/what-s-new-in-office-365-95c8d81d-08ba-42c1-914f-bca4603e1426?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US

Note that the top of the page says this (copied here under "Fair Use"):
What's new in Office 365
Access for Office 365 OneNote 2016 Office 2016 Excel 2016 Word 2016 Outlook 2016 PowerPoint 2016 Publisher 2016 Access 2016 Visio Professional 2016 Visio Standard 2016 Project Professional 2016 Excel 2016 for Mac Outlook 2016 for Mac PowerPoint 2016 for Mac Word 2016 for Mac OneNote 2016 for Mac Office 2016 for Mac Excel for iPad Word for iPad OneNote for Mac PowerPoint for iPad OneNote for Android phones Excel for iPhone Word for iPhone PowerPoint for iPhone Word for Android tablets OneNote for iOS Excel for Android tablets PowerPoint for Android tablets Excel for Android phones Excel Mobile Office.com OneNote for Android PowerPoint for Android phones PowerPoint Mobile Project Standard 2016 Visio Online Plan 2 Word for Android phones Word Mobile Less
Regards, Joe
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
Office 2019 is only available if the user is having an Office 365 Business or Enterprise subscription.
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
> Office 2019 is only available if the user is having an Office 365 Business or Enterprise subscription.

I don't think so. Read this article, where I believe the author has accurately represented the comments from Microsoft:
https://www.thurrott.com/cloud/office-365/176224/office-2019-vs-office-365-whats-really-happening

Note this comment at the end of the article (copied here under "Fair Use"):
You’re not going to get an Office 2019 update on Office 365.
I think that is correct, unless Microsoft decides to change its Office strategy. Regards, Joe
David Johnson, CDRetiredCommented:
Office 365 E5 Version 1812 Build 11126.20118 Click-to-Run It starts up as Office 365 not Office 2016/2019
Karen FalandaysTraining SpecialistCommented:
I agree with Jackie Mann. The O365 version of Office is definitely different from 2016. As a Microsoft Partner, I was also able to download Office 2019 standalone, and it is almost identical to my O365 build. Of course, the O365 subscription has the newer updates.
The most recent version of O365 is version 1812 or higher
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
Office 365 is not Office 2016. Office 365 is not Office 2019. Some Office 365 plans include the Office desktop apps, in which case the desktop apps are (currently) Office 2016, not Office 2019.
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
Have you read the links below?
Yes, I read them. Note that "2019" appears nowhere at the first link and "365" appears nowhere at the second link.
Karen FalandaysTraining SpecialistCommented:
My O365 desktop version 1812 is indeed Office 2019
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
Version xxxx (Build xxxx.xxxxx) determines whether it is Office 2016 or 2019.

In link 2, you know which Version or above is Office 2019 and you do a cross check for the same Version in link 1 and you know when O365 starts to use Office 2019 components.
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
Office 365 E5 Version 1812 Build 11126.20118 Click-to-Run It starts up as Office 365 not Office 2016/2019

No. Only the first splash screen which says Office 365 is different. The core components are the same when you lookup Product information.

For example, Version 1803 Build 9126.2336 is Office 2016 whereas Version 1811 is Office 2019.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3229906/software-productivity/office-2019-is-coming-heres-what-you-need-to-know.html

Read the above link also and you will know that Office 2019 or Office 365 is only a product label in Microsoft Product catalog and Office 365 is using Office 2019 components now.
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
OK, we've all stated our positions. We'll have to agree to disagree. Regards, Joe
N8iveITCommented:
One other question for the thread ... are both the 32 and 64 bit versions of Office 365 identical?

I am running O365 ProPlus, my version is up to date but not the same as the versions mentioned above.

Thoughts?
Joe WinogradDeveloperCommented:
are both the 32 and 64 bit versions of Office 365 identical?
No. This Microsoft article discusses the issue:
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/choose-between-the-64-bit-or-32-bit-version-of-office-2dee7807-8f95-4d0c-b5fe-6c6f49b8d261
Regards, Joe
Jackie Man IT ManagerCommented:
https://redmondmag.com/articles/2018/09/10/new-office-same-as-old-office.aspx

Please read the article in the link above and you will know Office 365 is essentially Office 2019.
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