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PeterBaileyUk
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Ive a new netgear jgs524PE switch and a netgear orbi rbk50 I would like help to setup correctly.

Currently the isp router is giving a gateway on 192.168.0.1 one port of that runs to the Netgear orbi, The orbi in turn has created its own network on 192.168.1.1, my switch is connected to the orbi with an ip 192.168.1.66.

I have nas connected to the switch, previously it was on 192.168.0.185 but I guess that now needs to be changed?

What is the best way to set up here? The Orbi provides netgear circle which allows me to control the kids devices with devices on the orbi network. So I think the switch has to stay as currently connected.

I am not sure if I should have the Router providing dhcp.

Your advice would be welcome.

This is a home setup but I do require 1gb cable speeds as I zoom a lot. The  synology nas server needs to be accessible from outside.
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SuhaibIT specialist

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Hello Peter

I think your network is like this:

network setup
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the  synology nas server needs to be accessible from outside.
you mean from Internet?

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yes sometimes I access my synology from outside

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Or I setup a website on it
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SuhaibIT specialist

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thank you for your reply, could you please explain more about your current devices and connections:
Router name/type, IP, which devices are connected directly
switch name/type, IP, which devices are connected directly


so i can help you.

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livebox Fibra router
Netgear switch jgs524pe
Netgear orbi rbr50 router
Netgear rbs 50 satellite

I can connect them anyway you advise currently and for simplicity the router wifi off and I am connected to the router with one cable to my pc.

Ive reset the router so its on 192.168.1.1
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You are using ORBI rbk50 Wifi/Router model ( One internet port for internet that connected to the IPS Modem AND 3 or4 LAN ports )

the scenario on ORBI RBK 50 will be :

* The default LAN setting 192.168.1.1/24. so, You do not need an Extra Router to set up DHCP Server, it is doable on your device as shown
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NOTE: My recommendation is excluding the first 15or 20 IP's from the DHCP range to reserved for the devices that need to assign IP Address Statically ( Switch, NAS, and others ), for Example, the DHCP server will assign IP's automatically starting 192.168.1.20 to 254.

* Now you can connect your  jgs524PE  to one of ORBI RBK50  LAN ports. Assign your switch an IP address for example 192.168.1.2/24 and
    gateway 192.168.1.1

* Assign your NAS a static IP 192.168.1.3/24 Gateway 192.168.1.1. Connect the NAS either via cable to your Switch or Router LAN port, Or connect it Via WIFI.

To access your NAS from outside there are many available options to configure  ( VPN, web access, Port trigger forwarding, DMZ )
all these config options on this link
http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RBK50/Orbi_UM_EN.pdf

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As for my isp router do I leave that as dhcp and 192.168.1.1

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Here is what the orbi showsorbi settings
Ibrahim KasabriInfrastructure admin

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please click on connection status at Internet port window and show me the statistics

Author

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optical fibre directly in to the isp router, I tried to set it to ont but it didnt work

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Do you mean router info
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Ibrahim KasabriInfrastructure admin

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on orbi RBK 50 change the internet port IP to 192.168.0.2 /24 gateway 192.168.0.1

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is that in the wan or lan part?
Ibrahim KasabriInfrastructure admin

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It's wan port
You *could* switch the orbi WAN to static IP but I think you give up all the good things that would happen re: DNS.  I would leave it dynamic.
I would also leave it dynamic to accomodate a NEW interface (including with a public address if you go that way for some reason).

On the orbi LAN side, I would get away from 192.168.1.0/24 because it's so commonly used.  It won't work right if your NEXT ISP device is set up in that same range.  Instead, use something like 192.168.34.0/24 and avoid 192.168.0.0, 192.168.1.0, 192.168.0.254, 192.168.1.254 .... well, anything on the list here:
https://www.techspot.com/guides/287-default-router-ip-addresses/
Then, if and when the ISP or their interface device changes, you will be ready to just plug it in!!

I might guess that you want the NAS on the orbi LAN side... but there seems to be more to what you're doing than has been described.
Ibrahim KasabriInfrastructure admin

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From the given Extra Pieces of information, I think there is no need to connect the ORBI rbk50 to the ISP router, because of the ISP router support (LAN, DHCP, WIFI, and other features).

therefore, On ISP Router the  DHCP pool start from 192.168.0.50-254, reserve the IP's 192.168.0.2/24 gateway 192.168.0.1  for Netgear switch jgs524pe, and IP 192.168.0.3/24 gateway 192.168.0.1 fro the NAS.

You can connect the Netgear SW to ISP router via LAN port1 and the NAS can connect either to ISP LAN port2 or to the Netgear SW.  

For NAS accessibility from outside, I think it is doable contact the ISP for support Or check the user manual of the ISP Modem Router.

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I need to give a class but will attempt a little later how do i set up 192.168.0.2/24 that on the isp router?

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Ive set the dhcp range and made the switch in its settings 192.168.0.2.

I think there is no need to connect the ORBI rbk50 to the ISP router, because of the ISP router support (LAN, DHCP, WIFI, and other features).

This is providing the fast wifi mesh, with isp router wifi turned off, hence its connection. the question is how to connect it and what settings
What do you mean by "it" in "the question is how to connect it"?

You said:
The Orbi provides netgear circle which allows me to control the kids devices with devices on the orbi network.
So you could get rid of the Orbi I suppose but then what about this?

You could consider continuing to use the Orbi as only a switch and wireless access point as in:
https://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/13060/Wireless-Router-as-a-Simple-Switch-and-Access-Point.html?headerLink=workspace_article
The instructions are there for doing this.

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