Thin laptop with a built-in keyboard that still works in detached mode

Thin laptop with a built-in keyboard that still works in detached mode.

I have the Microsoft Surface 4 Pro and I love it!  

Microsoft now has Surface 5 and Surface 6, neither of which solve this issue.

I am needing it to function as a laptop, but when the screen is detached from the keyboard, the built-in keyboard should still work.

Assistance in finding the right product at under $1,000 is greatly appreciated.
Ted PennerSoftware Solutions ArchitectAsked:
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I use a ThinkPad X1 Carbon. It IS a laptop and is my consulting laptop. Thin and light, very powerful, and long battery life.

Price depends on features but a Surface Pro with the features I have was yet more expensive than the ThinkPad.

Tough to get a useful machine like this under $1,000.
serialbandCommented:
You could tryp a detachable bluetooth keyboard/case for the newer surface models.
yo_beeDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
Are you looking for something like a wireless keyboard ?

From what I know about the Surface is that the keyboard works only via the contact points between the screen and the keyboard. The only solution that I know is a Bluetooth or Wireless that have a usb receiver

This is a Microsoft branded keyboard that worked via Bluetooth and is meant for the Surface.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/microsoft-surface-keyboard-silver/5663301.p?skuId=5663301
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Ted PennerSoftware Solutions ArchitectAuthor Commented:
No my surface won't do this. I'm looking for a laptop that will.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
My laptop will do everything you need. A thin ThinkPad "T" will also work.

I value light weight (2 pounds) so my briefcase (your back pack) is not heavy.
yo_beeDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
What is the desired purpose of having a functioning keyboard while the screen is detached?
yo_beeDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
Ted PennerSoftware Solutions ArchitectAuthor Commented:
Apparently there are several choices for ThinkPad t. If that will do the trick, can you send a link and tell me what the term is that describes this ability?

Thanks for that choice. That sounds like it might work
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
yo_beeDirector of Information TechnologyCommented:
I have not looked at the Lenovo links posted, but if they only come with USB-C I would steer away from this limitation.

I find that the need for an adaptor to give me hardwire network or video output a really pain.  

This is something to keep in mind.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
The laptops posted come with built-in keyboards and similar to what I use - the keyboards are not detachable, but that is not a limitation
Ted PennerSoftware Solutions ArchitectAuthor Commented:
I don't see how the keyboard detaches for those?
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
As I noted the T and X keyboards are not detachable. You need a convertible.

You need something like this

https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/landingpage/2in1/laptops-desktops-tablets/
serialbandCommented:
They don't.  The Thinkpad T series are  just regular laptops.

Does your Surface Pro 4 detachable keyboard work on the Surface Pro 6.  I've seen a few variations of the Surface Pros and they seem to have the same interface.  I haven't seen the Surface Pro 6 yet, so I can't fully verify it, but shouldn't it have the same form factor?
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Yes as noted. But Lenovo does have convertibles that I posted that allow the screen to separate or rotate from the keyboard which may serve the function.
serialbandCommented:
The Lenovo Yoga's do not have detachable keyboards.  What you describe is really only available in the Surface models.  Other companies don't have the same level of tablet convertable features in their models.

I would seriously dissuade you from getting any Lenovo that's not a T-series.  The T series are the only good laptops from Lenovo.  They're the only design's they bought from the original IBM that are worthwhile.  The rest of the models were part of the original Lenovo designs and are lower quality.  Even when IBM owned Thinkpads, only the T series was really solid.  The others were more consumer grade.
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Lenovo ThinkPad X machines (I have 2) are also solid commercial IBM designed computers.
serialbandCommented:
@thinkpads_user

He's not asking for those.  He's asking for a tablet with a detachable keyboard that works while detached.  None of the Lenovo devices you've suggested fits the bill.  The Yoga you linked to is definitely consumer grade, not enterprise grade.  Please stop going off on a tangent just to shill Lenovo.
Ted PennerSoftware Solutions ArchitectAuthor Commented:
Yes,

Thank you for helping to keep this discussion on target, and thanks very much to everyone for all the comments as well.

I am still looking for a detachable screen but a swivel might be a good alternative if I can't find the detachable screen where the keyboard continues to function.
serialbandCommented:
While the Lenovo Yoga does swivel, it is a consumer grade model and not one that's worth a recommendation for reliable use.

IMHO.  The Surface is the only really good system with a detachable keyboard.  The others suffer from lack of power or are lower quality.  Have you checked if the Surface 4 keyboard you currently have will work with the newer models.  The models from Dell have an overly bulky and heavy keyboard that make it feel as if it's heavier than their XPS 13.

You could always get a bluetooth keyboard as previously suggested.  Here is a possible suggestion from Fintie that works with Surface 4, 5, & 6.
https://www.amazon.com/Fintie-Microsoft-Ultra-Slim-Two-Button-Rechargeable/dp/B07HNY6JNY?psc=1&SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B07HNY6JNY

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