How does the Dell Poweredge R6415 VS HPE Proliant DL325 Gen10 measure up for Virtual Host

Donna Johnson
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Purchasing new server. We have to options, Dell Poweredge R6415 and HPE Proliant DL325 Gen10.  I am familiar with HPE Proliant servers. We have used them for many years. The Dell Poweredge R6415 looks good and it's a good bit cheaper. I'm wondering if any of you have used these. Have you used them as VM host?  Limitations?
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yo_beeDirector of Information Technology

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Depending on the type of guest you are going to run on the Hypervisor will dictate your decision.  Not some much brand, but form factor.
I use HPE DL360 Gen 10 for my ESX and Citrix Hypervisors (aka XenServer), but found out that I have a limitation on the form factor when it comes to GPU's.  The GPU's were an after thought for my VDI environment and being that they are 1U rack units I am limited to a GPU that can only handle x number of guest per host.  

So if you are planning to implement GPU's down the round for power user VM's or VDI in general I would look at a 2U form factor.  

I do not know anything about Dell's Power Edge, but they are probably right up there with the HPE servers.  I love mine, but they are really all I know. Also I have never run a VM environment on an AMD chip to recommend the HPE or not.   I comment is more to bring to light the form factor.
Technical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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They are both the new single socket AMD EPYC platforms. So, expect them to be similar in performance depending on the setup.

I suggest the following depending on the configuration:
 + Dell platform
 ++ Dell iDRAC Enterprise
 ++ Intel Quad-Port Gigabit NIC on board (if possible)
 ++ Dell PERC with 1GB minimum non-volatile cache memory
 ++ TPMv2
 + HPE Platform
 ++ iLO Advanced (check with provider as there are SKUs that discount this option significantly)
 ++ Intel Quad-Port Gigabit NIC on board (if possible)
 ++ HPE RAID with 1GB minimum non-volatile cache memory
 ++ TPMv2

If there is a need for 10GbE then specify Intel. We have had a lot of bad experiences with the Broadcom Gigabit NICs and prefer to avoid their 10GbE products as a rule for our Windows Hyper-V platforms. I'm not sure if VMware experiences the same issues. If not, then if price is a factor then Broadcom is okay though we still prefer Intel. Their networking products are vastly superior IMO.

EDIT: Also, the 4-hour response warranty for 3 to 5 years is a must. The default warranty is "phone based support". I highly suggest avoiding that.
Donna JohnsonAsst. Systems Manager

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Thanks guys!
kevinhsiehNetwork Engineer

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What type of VMs? Windows or other? Why looking at AMD?

Microsoft charges more for hosts with physical core count above 16. A 32 core host will cost twice as much for Microsoft licensing as a 16 core host will.

I use Dell 1 RU and 2RU servers for VM hosts, with Intel processors. There may be issues regarding using all PCIe slots with only a single processor for R630. R530 has fewer DIMM slots than R630/640/R730/R740. I guess the real question is what do you want the VM host to have in terms of CPU, RAM, storage, and PCIe connectivity?

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