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(I don't know where to put this so I put in C#/ASP.Net category)..

For those of you who've been helping me and know I've been dealing with an abusive and moody manager for almost a year... I accepted an offer today. I've been practicing my resignation since my manager blew up on me in January...over some silly SQL indentation... can you believe it?!...but now I'm not happy about it. Why is it so easy for companies to see good people come and go but so hard to dicipline a manager? (I'm the 3rd one leaving this company). Why is it so easy to see good people come and go but so hard to send a manager to training?

The position I accepted is a little outdated in technology. They said it's Web Forms and Crystal Reports but open to upgrades. Another developer does Angular and web stuff. Someone else does other stuff. Solid company and the owner also spoke with me. Seemed like a really nice person and my future manager said he has no tolerance for bad behavior.

I had another potential offer that with more recent technologies but they were taking their time and they're like a startup. They've already had layoffs and the company has been bought out. I chose the solid company with a good 401K (I'm getting older and not younger :)) , 3 weeks of vacation and a little increase in my salary. I chose a manager over technology (I read an article on LinkedIn about it). They did say they're looking into AI and new stuff. I do side projects so I can keep up with newer technologies.

I think I want someone here to tell me working with Web Forms is ok :)

I'll be posting all new questions when I start my new job :) Just wanted to let you know guys know. As always, I really apperciate all the help and advice here.

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Camillia

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Don't pick a job. Pick a Boss

This is what I did this time. Windows Forms might be old by my peace of mind is worth a lot.

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John

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Thanks, John. I second what you said. Yes, I can learn the old technology and help them. Thanks for saying that.

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Camillia

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we usually pick a job, and then realized how the boss is...

I can't believe my current company allows someone like my boss flourish. Hard to believe that it's 2019 and people still behave that way at work.

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Thanks, Fernando.

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you should inform (not complain) HR or your manager's manager, about the abuse and the reasons people leave

The other two developers wrote in their exit interviews their reasons for leaving.

I'm going to speak with my manager's boss.

@David -- I read three books about dealing with bad managers and even reached out to a professional to help me deal with him. At the end of the third book...I thought...what am I doing to myself.

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Great input and thoughts. I'm sad about my decision but it's the right one.

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Thanks, Gustav.

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Thanks, everyone. I spoke with HR. Sounded like they want to somehow get rid of him but because he's been there 20 yrs and has the business knowledge...they don't know what to do. Their problem now.

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Thanks, everyone. I spoke with HR. Sounded like they want to somehow get rid of him but because he's been there 20 yrs and has the business knowledge...they don't know what to do. Their problem now.

John

Thanks for the update!

J0rtIT

When you are going to do some actions against an employee I think it should be taken with gloves, but in this case, is justified since he's not being a leader for his group, he's just being a boss and a bad one...

But yeah indeed is their problem now

Camillia

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he's not being a leader for his group

Leader...that's the keyword. Nicely said.