OLD MAC QUARKXPRESS Application to Windows 7 Pro Issues

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I have an old Mac running Quark version 6. The MAC is slowly heading to the grave yard. Some times you have to wait several days before you can boot to a desktop - YEP, it's failing. Unfortunately the company relies on Quark 6 to create business cover pages, and we don't have the original software.

So, I went to Quark and downloaded version QuarkXPress 2018 on a Windows Pro 7. Yep, I'm about to be hit with all types of compatibility, file format night mares. The first problem I got past related to version. I downloaded/executed QuarkXPress Document converter tool. I was successful in bringing old files up to date, yet I received the following error:

Please note that any web or interactive layouts will be removed during conversion!

These layout types are no longer supported in QuarkXPress 10 and later. “New C-4908_9X.qxp” uses fonts not installed in your system.

      Helvetica
      Helvetica 95 Black
      Helvetica Extra Compressed
      Future Book
      B Eurostile Bold
      Futura Condensed

I  was able to open up the files from the MAC PC via Quark. Unfortunately, the format/font was not correct. I need to be able to recreate the same cover pages as I have done in the past. Is there anyway of recreating this environment?

I have done some research, It appears I'M not the only one trying to copy over MAC fonts to a Windows environment. I understand they are written in a different format (DFont). Has anybody had success with this?
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Scott FellDeveloper & EE Moderator
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I wonder if your best bet will be sending the old/original version to a pdf. You may have to do this via generating a post script file then use distiller or acrobat to generate the pdf. Then in your new version, open up the pdf and save as.
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Will that process keep the original format/fonts?

What would be involved with creating a script for that?

Obviously we would have to occur the cost of Adobe Standard, correct?

Side note, we are talking thousands of documents that would require that  type of conversion.
Scott FellDeveloper & EE Moderator
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It has been a very long time since I used Quark and that would have been very early 2000's.  

It sounds like the main issue is fonts. You may have to purchase fonts such as Helvetica and Future since they are not installed on windows. That alone may solve the issue.  

If you are dealing with that many files, you really should have acrobat pro anyway.  I would try it with one and see what happens. The steps I would take is to first buy the fonts and make sure they are installed. Then give it a try.  I think that will do it. If not, sending it to a postcript file or if that version of quark will generate a PDF, use that option.  From there, you should be able to open the pdf and be good to go. At the very least you need to buy fonts and at least a trial of adobe acrobat pro.

Also, remember that windows 7 is already past it's prime and at this January will be the final final. I would get going on Windows 10 when you can.
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Dave BaldwinFixer of Problems
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Any 'dfonts' may not convert at all to Truetype or OpenType formats.   Truetype and OpenType are mathematically stricter than the dfont format.
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Is the hard drive dying? Which Mac are we talking about and which drive is in the system (SCSI (80 pin, 68, 50)?, SATA)


Cloning an option, Do you have a newer mac where you can virtualize the current/older one.
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I spend most of my time focusing in the Windows environments, with an occasional MAC, sitting in the corner, here in there between clients. Every time I work with MAC'S, it's always a crash course,  utilizing  my knowledge of the Windows hardware/software world. That being said:

The MAC in question shows signs of a failing drive (could be anything though). Sometimes it boots up right away, and sometimes it takes a day and half of failed restarts to get it to a desk top.

It is a Power MAC G5, PowerPC G5 (3.0) 2 Ghz, 1 GB of mem, with a MAC OX X version 10.4.11
It's using a serial - ATA Maxtor 6B160M0 152.67GB

I opened it up to ensure it wasn't trying to breath through dirt. It's clean, no change, except I got it to boot-up. I did that, due to the fact that the internal fan kicks into high gear once in  a while.

We do have a another production MAC:

iMac 27-inch mid 2011
2.7 Ghz i5, 8 GB 1333 DDR3
Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5
Scott FellDeveloper & EE Moderator
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What would be involved with creating a script for that?
The first step is getting a couple done manually so you know what needs to be done.
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I have looked into the fonts. The easy route is to just see what happens when you convert them to a windows environment. It's worth a shot - I understand it's probably not going to happen. I just need to hunt down what app to perform this with.

I have checked with the manager regarding converting to PDF. Yes the old Quark version 6 does give you the  ability to save to PDF, unfortunately, it messes with all the colors needed for our workbook covers. Nothing seems to generate the way the original Quark 6 did.

I also though about visualizing, just worried about the failing drive. The 1st thing I wanted to do was backup. It appears that this version of OS doesn't have Time Machine for snapshots. I thought, maybe pop in a new HD and perform a restore.
I am open for suggestions on the procedure to visualize based on my situation.

Thank you for all your help.
Scott FellDeveloper & EE Moderator
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Since you have another mac on standby, I would start with that.

This is coming back to me. You have to convert to a version midway between the current version and your old version 6 http://www.quark.com/documentation/quarkxpress/2018/english/qxp-2018-getting-started/_D360942A496540CCA7ACB2F8BBA080AF_14.html

It does not look like there is a batch option for that converter but there is a batch option for the newer.  I believe with the Mac you can use Automater to create a script that simply records your actions.  Keep in mind 1000 files sounds like a lot but manually it may only take one to two days to convert.  You could easily spend that time making a script to do the same and eat up just as much time. I might try a few times with the automater before just plowing through and getting it done.
GeeMoonIT Consultant

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Hi Scott,

They have attempted to convert to PDF via the original Quark 6. The colors were all off. I wasn't involved in that process. I might need to jump in and see what my client was doing.

Before I get involved in that, I need to ensure I grab all the old data before the system dies. They tell me it's all backed up - you know how that goes. I still like the idea of just vitalizing the drive before it fails and running it on the working MAC. A Lot to think about.  I will try messing with PDF/and the latest version of Quark.

Also, in the mean time, I would like to attempt to convert the fonts to windows. Anybody know of a good dfont converter?
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Hi GeeMoon!

I routinely work between PC and Mac in the design world and have used online converters like https://onlinefontconverter.com for fonts.

As for color, this is usually a result of saving a CMYK file as a RGB or vice versa. Unfortunately, I'm not too familiar with Quark as I started in InDesign, but there should be an option to set color export parameters (which I'm guessing could be something you define in an export script as well).

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