Problems with VMPlayer Guest

Aaron Greene
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I am using VMPlayer 15 to run a Windows 7 guest operating system on a Windows 10 PC.  I have been having problems with the guest OS lately that I can't explain.  The guest OS runs very slowly, there have been network connection issues, there have been problems using multiple monitors and most annoyingly, the mouse seems to randomly switch back to the host.  My "gut" is telling me that the guest is to big for the host.  When I say too big, I mean that the guest is configured so that it is more powerful than the host can handle.  I am not even sure if that is possible using VMPlayer.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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When I say too big, I mean that the guest is configured so that it is more powerful than the host can handle.  I am not even sure if that is possible using VMPlayer.

Can you confirm and clarify what you mean by too big ?

If you've allocated more resources to the Guest Virtual Machine than the Host this is what is commonly called you've oversubscribed your GIest VM.

So options...

1. Reduce the Guest VM resources.
2. Upgrade the Host.
3. Move the Guest VM to bare metal.

It's not really a  "I am not even sure if that is possible using VMPlayer."

see options above.
Aaron GreeneProgrammer

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I can't access the PC until after start of business, but does the behavior described lend itself to the guest being oversubscribed?
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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Please describe the Windows 10 Host:   CPU, amount of memory,  Hard Drive or SSD.

Are you able to "Clean Up" the virtual machine (compact it) in the VMware Player menu?  
Can you defrag the virtual machine?  No need if SSD.

I prefer VMware Workstation as it has more management tools.  I have a Windows 7 Pro Virtual Machine on my Windows 10 Host laptop and it works fine.
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John TsioumprisSoftware & Systems Engineer

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Well its pure arithmetic...if you have a weak host and you try to run a resource intensive VM then everything will feel slow.
As stated above...try to minimize the resources utilized by the VM...cut down unnecessary applications/graphics/services...lower its memory/CPU  resources and if you have an SSD with space move it to it to get as much performance as possible...but the end truth is that VMs are power hungry and in order to to have a smooth experience you need a powerful host...preferably bare metal as pointed above like ESXI
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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I can't access the PC until after start of business, but does the behavior described lend itself to the guest being oversubscribed?

Possible.

When I say too big, I mean that the guest is configured so that it is more powerful than the host can handle.  I am not even sure if that is possible using VMPlayer.

Can you confirm and clarify what you mean by too big ?
Aaron GreeneProgrammer

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I am not on-site with the PC, but I was able to get the PC specifications.  

Precision 7820 Tower
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Bronze 3104 CPU @ 1.70GHz 1.70GHz 2 processors
Installed Memory: 64.0 (63.7GHz usable)
System Type: 64-bit Operating System x64-based processor

Windows 10 Pro for workstations
1809
OS Build: 17763.168


Windows 7 Professional
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Bronze 3104 CPU @ 1.70GHz 1.70GHz
Installed Memory: 16.0GB
System Type: 64-bit Operating System
JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)
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That is probably a strong enough computer.

Hard Drive?   Try defragging it.
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It's your cpu Intel Xeon Bronze 3104 is the lowest end cpu of that style of processor and does not support hyper-threading. Quite simply this is an entry level cpu and not designed for the workload you are trying to perform. Even my 8 year old x5670 out performs it

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Xeon-Bronze-3104-vs-Intel-Xeon-X5670-vs-Intel-Xeon-Bronze-3106/3174vs1307vs3230
You have to go to at least the silver to see any appreciable increase in speed.

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