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Isn't $900 for 1TB of Cloud Storage for 1 year a little expensive?

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Acronis wants almost $900 for 1TB of Cloud Storage for 1 year. Isn't that a little outrageous? Why would I want to do that when my OneDrive account has 1TB for free?

What could Acronis's cloud storage bring to the party that would justify that? (Yes it will be used on a server running their backup software).
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You will likely find the limits of One Drive will not work for backup images.  https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/file-size-limits-in-one-drive/c72b8780-8781-4714-ab52-5ec5cb1342f9
Bagaudin SatuevGlobal Community Evangelist

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Acronis wants almost $900 for 1TB of Cloud Storage for 1 year.

Where did you get this from? Which product?
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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Yes because we pay much less with Backblaze and they are the cheapest we believe at present!

And use for Cloud Storage Acronis probably uses some third party anyway

$0.005 per Gigabit per month

For B2 Cloud Enterprise Storage which is compatible with many third party backup buckets
Bagaudin SatuevGlobal Community Evangelist

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For B2 Cloud Enterprise Storage which is compatible with many third-party backup buckets

It is also possible to use their storage with Acronis corporate and MSP solution via free Acronis Backup Gateway add-on.
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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there you go you can save money maybe and use Backblaze but you may have to setup addons
Bagaudin SatuevGlobal Community Evangelist

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you may have to purchase more addons

No add-ons are necessary. I figured what OP meant, we have a Cloud Storage add-on which can be bought with Acronis Backup 12.5 and costs $899 per year for 1 TB.

If the OP is a home customer and backs up Windows 10 (8, 8.1, 7) or then he can just buy premium subscription of Acronis True Image 2020 with 1 TB for $99.99 per-year.

Alternatively, as I said above - purchase just the product itself and use free backup gateway to backup to any S3-compatible storage, no other add-ons are necessary.
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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So answer to your question is if $900 too rich use something else!
David Johnson, CDSimple Geek from the '70s
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6TB  431/year Wasabi which stays the same for egress (could download it all every month no egress fees)
       1,695/year Amazon S3 2,359  10%/month download
        1,356/year Microsoft Azure 1,430 10%/month egress
         1,916/year Google cloud 2,506 10%/month Egress

So I think $900 for 1TB is very overpriced.
Dr. KlahnPrincipal Software Engineer
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Q:  Acronis wants almost $900 for 1TB of Cloud Storage for 1 year. Isn't that a little outrageous?

A;  Considering that a 1 TB SSD costs much less than that ... no.  It's a lot outrageous.

Q:  Why would I want to do that when my OneDrive account has 1TB for free?

A:  You would not want to do that.

Q:  What could Acronis's cloud storage bring to the party that would justify that?

A:  At absolutely no extra charge they bring to you the possibility of exposing your data to any hostile on the internet.
Bagaudin SatuevGlobal Community Evangelist

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So I think $900 for 1TB is very overpriced.

A;  Considering that a 1 TB SSD costs much less than that ... no.  It's a lot outrageous.

As I explained above - there are various options available. One can even opt to backup to 3rd-party cloud.

At absolutely no extra charge they bring to you the possibility of exposing your data to any hostile on the internet.

Would you support that claim somehow or cease issuing false statements?
Dr. KlahnPrincipal Software Engineer
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Would you support that claim somehow or cease issuing false statements?

Gladly.  I will support the claim.  All traffic, whether encrypted or not, that passes through the internet is exposed to any hostile in the world who can obtain access to it in transit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

Once data is stored on servers, a/k/a "the cloud", that data can be accessed by (a) corrupt or corruptible employees of the service provider, or (b) anyone on the internet who can find a back door into those servers, or (c) anyone who can obtain the usage credentials of the client by means fair or foul.  As one might expect, the service provider does not charge extra for this possibility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches

Therefore, at no extra charge, the service provider brings to you the possibility of exposing your data to any hostile on the internet.
ste5anSenior Developer
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A:  At absolutely no extra charge they bring to you the possibility of exposing your data to any hostile on the internet.
ymmd ;)
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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Something to consider:

Provider's ...
 1: storage needs to provide some sort of redundancy
 2: server infrastructure same
 3: network infrastructure same
 4: Internet connection systems same

Comparing 1TB of cloud storage to a 1TB SSD cost wise is apples to oranges.

Is $900 for a TB of off-site storage outrageous? Not really given what is probably a fully integrated solution set not requiring the admin to click a few times and drop a credit card somewhere. That seems to be about right as far as what we've seen for average costs.

Disclaimer: We work with BaaS and DRaaS service providers on Veeam.
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Interesting comments. I am not a fan of the Cloud either and at the very least would think encryption is imperative. The $899 Acronis Add-on for Corporate (12.5) is what I was referring to as being $900 a year for 1TB.

I took a look at Backblaze and unfortunately Acronis isn't on their list of "supported backup software". So as far as anyone knows do any of these "third party" cloud storage places work with Acronis Backup 12.5?
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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An alternative to Acronis would be to use some old hardware lying around to set up StarWind's Virtual Tape Library, configure your backup to send a FULL to it, and then set up the BackBlaze sync.
LockDown32Owner
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Thanks Phillip. That was actually a thought. I was thinking about putting one big USB hard drive on the server and backing up to it then using some kind of sync software to copy it to the cloud. Still looking at BackBlaze's web site. Very nice to know that they have this available. It might make more sense doing a sync as opposed to "integration", API or whatever.
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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The catch with that method would be the FULL file size and the time it takes to get it into the cloud.

Running continuous incremental backups would be one way around that once the big one is up there, but one needs to be very mindful of the backup chain and its integrity.
LockDown32Owner
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Yes this is a circle :) That is what Acronis does. One full and incremental s thereafter. The problem being.... sooner or later it has to merge the oldest incremental in to the full which essentially creates a new full and bam... you are syncing a new full.

Actually that is the same with any big file. You change one byte in a huge SQL file and using a file sync it thinks it is a new file and has to sync it all over again. That is a problem. The sync program would have to look at files sector by sector (or something like that) and only sync the changes. So how are people backing up to the cloud under this scenario?

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I encourage you to do a test and asking the vendor questions before committing to a cloud storage provider as many of them are changing the rules on large files.  Here is a link from Crashplan as an example.  I know One Drive blocks large PST & VM Ware files.  https://www.acronis.com/en-us/blog/posts/crashplan-code42-announces-new-file-exclusions-and-deletes-client-historical-backups