Questions on Four Ones (1.1.1.1)  - considering to change my DNS to it

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Recently here in Expert-Exchange an expert mention Four Ones (1.1.1.1) as an alternative for DNS for a VPN question I had.   Did some google and found that it's from CloudfFare/APNIC, works somewhat as VPN, further their site says they are audited annually by KPMG - so it seems ok or legit.  I am thinking of changing my DNS in all my devices to Four Ones, so I wanted to know the expert thoughts on this.  Is it really faster? Does it work like a VPN? What EE take?

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Top Expert 2016
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the big public dns providers are  google (alphabet the advertising company uses this to do many things i.e. optimize search results. you might want to look at Steve Gibson's DNS Stuff (http://grc.com) and test. Using a quality dns provider (most isp's barely keep their dns up to date.. they provide the minimum to say that they have it and also mine the data It really depends upon the load on the DNS servers s to what results you will get.
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Only you can answer the question of whether it's faster, using a DNS benchmark tool like the one found at grc.com (there are others), because it's going to depend on your location and connection.  Personally I don't have any reservations about using them.

I wouldn't say it's like a VPN (not sure where that's coming from).  All traffic inside a VPN is encrypted to help protect against man-in-the-middle and eavesdropping.  If you configure DNS over HTTPS (specific apps have to be configured, the OS doesn't have native support yet) you can help protect just your DNS queries in that app from eavesdropping.  Other traffic is subject to it's own protection mechanisms, and is unprotected unless using something like HTTPS.
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hmm, when you don't trust your provider, why should you trust another company which is for sure doing big data on your traces?

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Hi,

Just read your entries.

David & footech, I visited grc.com but couldn't find tools for testing dns found? can u guys provide a link?

Also David, when u say "using a quality dns provider", which would be "quality dns provider" in you opinion?

Finally, my questions was related to using Four Ones (1.1.1.1) as an alternative for DNS; any of u guys have any take on Four Ones (1.1.1.1)?

Thank u!
Top Expert 2014

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https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm

I don't know what to make of your last question, all the responses were in regard to 1.1.1.1 for DNS and others who provide similar service.  Frankly if you're comfortable with using Google's public DNS servers, then I don't see much difference with 1.1.1.1.

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Hi,

'I don't know what to make of your last question' -  what I mean by "any of u guys have any take on Four Ones (1.1.1.1)?" I mean, what is the Experts opinion on Four Ones (1.1.1.1)? (that's what is meant by "take").   Since  u guys didn't make any reference to  Four Ones (1.1.1.1), rather more directed to DNS., I understood u guys have no opinion to Four Ones (1.1.1.1).

Appreciate the GRC link, but I still would like an expert opinion on his/her take on Four Ones (1.1.1.1) - since there is a lot info out there like it's from CloudfFare/APNIC, works somewhat as VPN, CloudfFare site says they are audited annually by KPMG, etc.

Will wait.

Thanx!
Top Expert 2016
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You have to run dns benchmark to find the best dns servers for your area.

This benchmark found 7 publicly available DNS nameservers that are reliably faster than the slowest nameserver currently being used by this system. If you were to adjust your system's configuration to use the faster of these nameservers instead of what it is currently using, your DNS lookup performance, and all use of the Internet, would be improved.

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With at least 95% certainty:  Based upon a statistical analysis of the spread in timing value samples received during the benchmark, there is at least a 95% certainty that the performance conclusions stated above are correct. But even so, since changing DNS nameservers requires thought and effort, it's something you want to be sure about. Therefore, since these results represent a single snapshot in time, you may wish to confirm that the faster alternative nameservers are consistently faster than your system's currently configured nameservers, and that those public alternatives don't have any negative characteristics such as being colored orange to signify that they redirect mistaken URLs to an advertising-laden search page rather than returning an error (which will be a concern to some users).

Only by testing can you find the best dns servers for your area and the way your isp is routing your traffic. A quality dns server would be cloudflare, google, opendns, level 3, ultradns. The reason you want the fastest results is that every human readable name has to be converted to ip addresses the faster the response the faster you will get connected to the data source.
For the very fastest response you would have all of these addresses in your hosts file but this means constantly updating your hosts file which was the original way the internet ran.. everyone was transferring new hosts files around this was found to be rather unworkable. Even doing this within an organization was problematic at best. It really didn't scale very well.

Four Ones is better than most isp dns servers  They also host a private vpn app for android/ios.. for a vpn onto your own system network you need your own system servers since public dns servers know nothing about your private ip lan setup (the ip's are private)

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That was my search results also on the topi, "Four Ones is better than most isp dns servers".  

Ok, Thanx u!

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