How to Enable DoH in Apple iPhone  X

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Hi,

I just enabled DNS-Over-HTTPS in my google chrome and wanted to know how to set it in the iPhone/iPad.   Haven't been able to do ti; how can I enable DoH in my iPhone/iPad?
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Top Expert 2016
Commented:
you might want to install the 4 1's app
https://blog.cloudflare.com/1111-warp-better-vpn/ or just use firefox on your device. IOS is pretty locked down and some resources that are available for developers in android are not available for ios

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Oh, I see, it's not like chrome where u place an argument in front of the executable.


My question is more directed to encrypted DNS, so when u say " IOS is pretty locked down",  u mean IOS already has DNS encrypted ? What did u mean by that?

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well, 2 questions,

1. found the apps for IOS iPhone but it requests my iPhone password to create the VPN - can I setup VPN directly on the iPhone without giving the password to cloudflare?

2, u mention "or just use firefox on your device." - I download firefox in my iPhone but tested the DoH and it says "No" - what am I missing to setup firefox for DoH?
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Top Expert 2016
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you're not giving cloudflare your password but authorizing the application to change your network settings
My thinking is that apple is blocking the DOH because of its security settings.

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I see, but I find it strange that it would ask for the iPhone password.  The screen asking the password is even different from iPhone.  I went straight to creating a VPN and no password was asked (I took a vid so u can see).

what don’t think?
Top Expert 2016

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a link to the vid would be nice

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here it is (did't go up)
Video.MP4

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You see, when creating a VPN, the process doesn't request password to iPhone.
Top Expert 2016

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there is a difference when an app tries to do it.. try other vpn's i.e. proxpn, private internet access (PIA) if they have an app it will ask for authorization

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understood.  Don't if u saw my vid, but, if u know, can I setup the VPN without the apps?
Top Expert 2016

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who do you want to be your connection to the internet? look around for a vpn vendor

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No, maybe I am explaining wrong.  On you recommended link u recommended cloudflare apps for my iPhone so I can enable DoH.  When I downloaded and started the install process, it requested the iPhone password for the supposedly VPN it needs to create.  Since the iphone vpa creation doesn't require a password, my questions was can I create the vpn separately from the cloudflare apps then install the apps?
Jana

YES, of course you can manually enter the details of a VPN on the iPhone however if you want to use the Cloudflare one .. you need to use the app because the Cloudflare system needs to be able to change the settings if required.  Most of the VPN service providers will require you to configure the VPN via their apps for the same reason.  Many businesses have private VPN systems to access their networks for example and that is where the OSX Settings : VPN can be used to manually enter values.

Remember that providing VPN servers and services costs quite a bit of money and they don't want you using their services for FREE .. its basic economics.  There are so-called FREE VPN services out there but I'd question HOW they make their money to cover costs .. ;-)

You can Manually use the Cloudflare secured DNS .. as indicated here but its not a full VPN but will achieve HTTPS over DNS
https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/setting-up-1.1.1.1/iphone/
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vpn services have become quite cheap over the years... <$5USD/month for 3 devices.

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Hi Eoin,

I already have Cloudflare secured DNS, that was easy; just enter 1.1.1.1.1.  What I didn't get was that "Most of the VPN service providers will require you to configure the VPN via their apps for the same reason" - I haven't installed one in my mobile devices (so I thought it was only cloudflare doing it).  I have installed VPN (fortinet specifically).  Looking at my mobile fortinet install (downloaded from apple store for testing the authentication), it also ask for iPhone password... so this standardized stuff then.

I guess my best bet, being this my concern, is having a Two-factor authentication for Apple ID.

Ok Guys, thank u very much!
(thanx David for your input but my point was with cloudflare)

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