Vmware HCI vs vSAN ROBO

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I have a question on VMware HCI kit and vSAN ROBO. I hope someone will shed light on this.
I know vSAN ROBO is for multiple sites if we want to deploy less than 25 VMS.
If we have only one remote site then can we deploy vSAN with HCI? kit instead of spending too much money?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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VMware have just bundled vSphere and vSAN together = HCI Kit.

So

vSphere Licenses + vSAN Licenses = HCI Kit.

rather than purchasing vSphere and vSAN separately.

vSAN ROBO is vSAN ROBO! e.g. you've got to purchase your vCenter Server, ESXi licenses as well...

Your VMware Account manager will be able to give you competitive pricing!

https://www.vmware.com/content/dam/digitalmarketing/vmware/en/pdf/products/vsan/vmware-vsan-66-licensing-guide.pdf

VMware HCI Kit Essentials (per-CPU) that includes vSphere Essentials plus and vSAN Standard

(maybe your cheapest option) but not as cheap as just purchasing a Synology NAS for Shared Storage, or Veeam Backup and Replication!

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We have a vcenter at the HQ. We only need Witness and 2 ESXi hosts.
Will the VMware HCI be the less expensive solution that Synology and 2 ESXi hosts?
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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VMware HCI Kit Essentials - $16,000

(just licenses!).

How are you VMware Skills, because iSCSI and NFS storage (e.g. a Synology NAS) are easier to configure and manage than VMware vSAN!

or even direct attach SAS "SAN".

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The HCI kit price is about 4K as per the link below.

https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/product/HCI-ADV-CPU-APROMO/VMware/HCI-ADV-CPU-APROMO/VMwareHCIKitAdvanced(v.6)/
The vSAN ROBO is about 12K.
Why is vSAN BOBO is expensive compare to HCI kit?
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Commented:
Depends how you purchase it, Essentials, Standard, Advanced and remember it's per CPU per Host!

So if you have two hosts with 2 CPUs, that's $12,000! (but that does also include your vSphere and vCenter Server) so a big saving if purchased all at he same time, because otherwise you would also have to purchase vCenter Server x 1, and 4 x 1 CPU vSphere.

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Commented:
We have vcenter aleady at the HQ.
We only need signle cpu esxi , so the lic we need only  for 2CPU since need only 2 nodes.
We can deploy the witnesd at HQ , 2 nodes at remote office.  It looks like we save some money if we buy HCI kit vs ROBO.
Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE Fellow)VMware and Virtualization Consultant
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If you really think vSAN is for you, the proceed with HCI (which is new since 6.6) but it's just the way it's bundled.

But think carefully over

1. Purchase vSAN Ready Nodes.
2. Ensure they are purchased as vSAN Ready Nodes e.g. tagged at the re seller for support later (not just servers thrown together with parts on the HCL!)
3. See this EE Question!

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/29167403/vsan-disadvantage.html

and compare and contrast with

1. Local SAN (e.g. Synology NAS/SAN)

or

2. Local attached SAS DAS. (faster than NAS/SAN) because it's locally attached SAS disks.

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Commented:
Thanks Andrew, I am going to look for either VR or Synalogy.

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