sage payroll legislation update on terminal server fails

two things

1) if you run the setup.exe from an elevated command prompt - do you get the same issue?
2) i have a feeling that it may require one of the VS runtimes.... and the required version might be missing - is there anything about that in the doco ?

thanks for the quick response.

i'm trying the elevated cmd prompt (putting it into install mode first) but it doesn't look promising...

will check the prerequisites after breakfast

i came accross this earlier
https://community.flexera.com/t5/InstallShield-Forum/ISSetup-dll-of-InstallShield-2016-crashes-in-the-environment-of/td-p/23269

not sure if its relevant though...

elevated cmd fails in the same manner

there are no prerequisites at all given

ok.

just say that article too.... so... at least your not alone - but... that doesnt really help!

one other thing - are you running the setup.exe from somewhere in the appdata dir as per https://knowledgebase.progress.com/articles/Article/installscript-setup-launcher-unicode-has-stopped-working

i agree, its a longshot.... but.... its worth a crack.

i'm not running it from appdata, but it looks like it unpacks itself there after it is run...

there aren't any software restriction policies in place - that key is empty.

hmmm....

so i made a dump file  and these are the analysis  results...

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.3.9600.17298 AMD64
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\Users\Kev\Desktop\LegislationUpdate.DMP]
User Mini Dump File with Full Memory: Only application data is available


************* Symbol Path validation summary **************
Response                         Time (ms)     Location
Deferred                                       SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is:
Windows 7 Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (8 procs) Free x64
Product: Server, suite: TerminalServer
Machine Name:
Debug session time: Sat Apr  4 12:35:03.000 2020 (UTC + 1:00)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:06:53.256
Process Uptime: 0 days 0:01:33.000
..................................WARNING: rsaenh overlaps cryptsp
.......WARNING: riched20 overlaps GdiPlus
..
wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+0x9:
00000000`74ed2e09 c3              ret
0:000>
0:000> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
*                                                                             *
*******************************************************************************

*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for LegislationUpdate.exe
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for ISSetup.dll -
*** WARNING: symbols timestamp is wrong 0x4a5bdfe5 0x4a5bc3d5 for msiltcfg.dll
GetUrlPageData2 (WinHttp) failed: 12002.

FAULTING_IP:
+0
00000000`00000000 ??              ???

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 0000000000000000
   ExceptionCode: 80000003 (Break instruction exception)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 0

CONTEXT:  0000000000000000 -- (.cxr 0x0;r)
rax=0000000000000001 rbx=0000000000000246 rcx=0000000000000208
rdx=0000000000000000 rsi=0000000000000208 rdi=000000000018e160
rip=0000000074ed2e09 rsp=000000000008ec08 rbp=000000000018e184
 r8=000000000000002b  r9=000000007789f9f2 r10=0000000000000000
r11=0000000000000206 r12=000000007efdb000 r13=000000000008fd20
r14=000000000008ec80 r15=0000000074ed2450
iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=0033  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00000246
wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+0x9:
00000000`74ed2e09 c3              ret

FAULTING_THREAD:  00000000000006c0

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  STATUS_BREAKPOINT

PROCESS_NAME:  LegislationUpdate.exe

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0x80000003 - {EXCEPTION}  Breakpoint  A breakpoint has been reached.

EXCEPTION_CODE: (HRESULT) 0x80000003 (2147483651) - One or more arguments are invalid

NTGLOBALFLAG:  0

APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS:  0

APP:  legislationupdate.exe

ANALYSIS_VERSION: 6.3.9600.17298 (debuggers(dbg).141024-1500) amd64fre

PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS:  STATUS_BREAKPOINT

BUGCHECK_STR:  APPLICATION_FAULT_STATUS_BREAKPOINT

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER:  from 0000000074ed2bf1 to 0000000074ed2e09

STACK_TEXT:  
00000000`0008ec08 00000000`74ed2bf1 : 00000000`100f8ce3 00000000`74f40023 00000000`00000246 00000000`0018d9f8 : wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+0x9
00000000`0008ec10 00000000`74f4d286 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`74ed1920 00000000`776c3128 00000000`776fc4c1 : wow64cpu!Thunk0ArgReloadState+0x23
00000000`0008ecd0 00000000`74f4c69e : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`74f44b10 00000000`7ffe0030 : wow64!RunCpuSimulation+0xa
00000000`0008ed20 00000000`776f4393 : 00000000`00244880 00000000`00000000 00000000`777f2e70 00000000`776c7550 : wow64!Wow64LdrpInitialize+0x42a
00000000`0008f270 00000000`777596e0 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`77766bdd 00000000`0008f820 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!LdrpInitializeProcess+0x17e3
00000000`0008f760 00000000`7770373e : 00000000`0008f820 00000000`00000000 00000000`7efdf000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x22770
00000000`0008f7d0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!LdrInitializeThunk+0xe


STACK_COMMAND:  ~0s; .ecxr ; kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+9
00000000`74ed2e09 c3              ret

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX:  0

SYMBOL_NAME:  wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+9

FOLLOWUP_NAME:  MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: wow64cpu

IMAGE_NAME:  wow64cpu.dll

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP:  5e0eb6d0

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  STATUS_BREAKPOINT_80000003_wow64cpu.dll!CpupSyscallStub

BUCKET_ID:  X64_APPLICATION_FAULT_STATUS_BREAKPOINT_wow64cpu!CpupSyscallStub+9

ANALYSIS_SOURCE:  UM

FAILURE_ID_HASH_STRING:  um:status_breakpoint_80000003_wow64cpu.dll!cpupsyscallstub

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {b49b9ba3-a146-c725-bd13-e3ea7af98ea6}

Followup: MachineOwner

just an update...having spent all day since 9.30 am trying to get hold of anyone at sage, they finally answered the phone at 5pm.

conclusion - looks like they have changed the way they package their installers, leading me to believe that we were correct about it being something like the below

https://community.flexera.com/t5/InstallShield-Forum/ISSetup-dll-of-InstallShield-2016-crashes-in-the-environment-of/td-p/23269


their phone lines are in melt down, leading me to believe that they have had a huge number of issues with it...

so i dont think theres anything to be done until they release a new version of the installer.  

im now having to go back to a client / server architecture from terminal services which is painful. but it will work.

i will keep you posted, thanks for your help so far.

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