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Is there a way to make the mother board I have with a chipset or something 64 bit. Trying to save the last ounces of the machines without buying all new hardware &amp; Software etc. If getting a new CPU or something I would be open. I do not know if the motherboards are what comes as 64 bit 32 bit or what?
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You cannot upgrade from a 32-bit to 64-bit version. You have to perform a clean installation.
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<a href="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467190/CPU.png" rel="ugc"><img src="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467190/CPU.png" class="fr-fic fr-dib"></a>SO you are saying that if my motherboard can handle it. I can attempt to install a 64 bit version of Windows 7 or 10 and see if the ram can be accepted to improve performance. I am considering SSD as well. I did not know you could do that. I thought you had to have a CPU or MB that is 64 bit compatible. Am I wrong there. <br><a href="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467191/MB.png" rel="ugc"><img src="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467191/MB.png" class="fr-fic fr-dib"></a>
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So If I buy two 64 bit licenses of Wind 7 Pro 64 Bit these machines should handle the increase in RAM and therefore work a bit more efficiently with the Adobe the Databases I work with and the reporting tools I use....? Or do I have to be careful and make sure the MB and CPU can handle it? I am notorious for spending money and having components I cant return or use. Trying to be smart here and that for me is a constant challenge....I am afraid.
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Unfortunately I have had mixed reviews on whether I could install update my boards to 10. I started on both then got scared off when a few of the components I had on the machine were not Win 10 compatible. So I missed the window for both upgrades. I have a Windows 10 64 bit that I have not installed yet and wondered the same thing. Could I upgrade or sorry you said no upgrade. Just simply do a new install...?
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You don't need to buy any licenses. You can upgrade to Windows 10 or stay with Windows 7 with the current license key. The key applies to both a 32-bit and 64-bit version.<br><br>
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MURUGESAN N (murugesandins)

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I hope i am not talking too extreme here but.<br>Q8400 is quite old and the whole setup is just plain old (a decade)<br>Maybe (i don't know your budget) you should investigate the scenario of getting "newer" machines that will have more "potential" compared to the ones you have right now.<br>These can be either new of refurbished...you have to check the deals<br><br><br>
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A refurbished 4th generation i5 would be twice the performance at least and it should be around the $200 mark
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Sounds like if I have 64 bit install disks for both 7 and 10 I can install them on these machines and utilize the RAM I bought. Thank you for the input on the age as these machines are older. Bought them long ago and then my boss gave me an Apple MacBook Pro. I left these to mostly sit ever since. Now I need the software on them for development of a few things. Hard to beat the Apple for ease of use. SO went back to these old machines to utilize because of the software I do have. Trying to squeeze the last bit out of them. <br><br>I will try to install the 64 bit versions and see if they take. SO if the MBs already accept the version of windows and they are already 32 bit. You are saying HELLO THERE that they should accept the upgrade to 64 bit with no fundamental issues and therefore the increase in RAM will be utilized?
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I would try to sell them and buy a cheap refurbished solution...i think in your area there more than enough shops to strike a good deal
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<a href="https://www.experts-exchange.com/members/murugesandins.html" rel="ugc">MURUGESAN N</a> &amp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.experts-exchange.com/members/tsgiannis.html" rel="ugc">John Tsioumpris</a>&nbsp;<br><br>I will take note of these things. Would love to have a job right now so buying a $200 machine would be a no brainer. Turning off things like services, checking what is using the most memory as well as the code you left. I will have to investigate further. Great stuff though and thank you for this help.
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Thank you and I have to say HELLO THERE you have the coolest and a at the same time most wicked scary looking avatar image or whatever you call the images photos on here. I have seen. <a href="https://www.experts-exchange.com/members/murugesandins.html" rel="ugc">MURUGESAN N</a> &amp; &nbsp;<a href="https://www.experts-exchange.com/members/tsgiannis.html" rel="ugc">John Tsioumpris</a>&nbsp; Thank all of you for your input as it is all valuable. Better go to bed as it is 4 am here. When you are currently unemployed funny how sleep is not important. maybe I can get 3 in before I pull those DVDs out and try to see if I can upgrade these to 64 bit.&nbsp;
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You are welcome and thank you. :-)
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Here is something I found to be helpful. My problem has always been asking the right term in a Google Search which is why I turn to EE to get the real terminology needed for finding the answer. Conveniently those searches often lead me right back here for some odd reason. Go Figure. The best in experts knowledge and forsight right here in one place. One stop shopping for knowledge. That is Experts-Exchange. They are welcome to use that in their next advertisement campaign if they want to.<br>So here is what I found if you go to Control Panel and type in the search bar Performance Information and Tools you get this window.<br><br><a href="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467452/PerformanceInformation-Tools.png" rel="ugc"><img src="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467452/PerformanceInformation-Tools.png" class="fr-fic fr-dib"></a>This is for the Processor<br>CPU #1 &nbsp; Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400<br>CPU Name &nbsp; Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz<br>Number of Logical Processors &nbsp; 4<br>Number of Physical Processors &nbsp; 1<br>Then Click on the View and print Detailed Performance and system Information. Right side middle and you get the answer to part of the question I was looking for that you all pointed out. &nbsp;This is just another way to see how to find out if the system (Processor) I have can handle (is capable) of a 64 bit install. Below it clearly says YES.<br><a href="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467469/PerformanceInformation-ToolsDetails.png" rel="ugc"><img src="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467469/PerformanceInformation-ToolsDetails.png" class="fr-fic fr-dib"></a>&nbsp;<br>As for my other Windows 7 Pro machine the Processor is older Intel DQ965CO it seems like it has different capabilities that limit me. The image below shows that it is not capable of 64 bit. Now I wonder if I can find a cheap Processor that would fit on this mother board so I can &nbsp;upgrade the MB to 64 bit since this one cannot it would appear. I am posting the new question of how to find the most powerful CPU for the motherboard I have in another question. At least I am clear on the 32 &amp; 64 bit and understand that some Processors can be capable or not to work with the 32 or 64 bit technology. This Performance Information view seems to be a solid way to verify. Thanks again for everything. I think this is a complete and thoroughly conclusive question. I love Experts-Exchange. <br>You guys save the ignorant, support the challenged ones and further expand the minds of the all knowing. Just goes to show you that when put together anything can be accomplished.<br><a href="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467470/DQ965COProcessor.png" rel="ugc"><img src="https://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incoming/2020/06_w25/1467470/DQ965COProcessor.png" class="fr-fic fr-dib"></a>
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I wouldn't imagine that you use something that old. :-)
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Can I ask why you need 2 machines?<br />
The Pentium 4 is probably not 64bit ...these were pretty nasty beasts when they are released...so probably you could sell the machine for retro gaming...
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Ordered several sticks of RAM from a well known province through the AliExpress group. Paid like $40-$50 for it. When I got it I noticed that my Windows 7 Pro machines actually are working slower. Could this be bad RAM. It would appear that all of it is bad. The manufacturer says Crucial a reputable company. I have had many. of their products with no problems. Now looking at the Properties of my Computers. I have two windows machines that have the Adobe Master Suite collection and several others like QuickBooks. It is like why be driven by the force of the market to keep upgrading when what you have works well. Well when I wanted ot increase the memory on these two machines from 4 to 8 GB Ram I thought I was getting the deal. From what I can tell the RAM is being recognized as on board but not registering as USABLE? From the screen show. I have the one here and another that says 8.00 GB RAM with 3.25 usable. Does that mean that the 4 extra sticks I bought are bad. How can I tell if it is good or bad?<br />
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Ordered several sticks of RAM from a well known province through the AliExpress group. Paid like $40-$50 for it. When I got it I noticed that my Windows 7 Pro machines actually are working slower. Could this be bad RAM. It would appear that all of it is bad. The manufacturer says Crucial a reputable company. I have had many. of their products with no problems. Now looking at the Properties of my Computers. I have two windows machines that have the Adobe Master Suite collection and several others like QuickBooks. It is like why be driven by the force of the market to keep upgrading when what you have works well. Well when I wanted ot increase the memory on these two machines from 4 to 8 GB Ram I thought I was getting the deal. From what I can tell the RAM is being recognized as on board but not registering as USABLE? From the screen show. I have the one here and another that says 8.00 GB RAM with 3.25 usable. Does that mean that the 4 extra sticks I bought are bad. How can I tell if it is good or bad?

How can you tell if Memory (RAM) is bad when Computer Properties says 8.00 Gb RAM present but only 3.25 usable.

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