Windows 11 for not-for-profit projects
Windows 11 for not-for-profit projects. Is it possible to get Windows 11 for use with not-for-profit projects?
Windows 11 Pro already available for Not for Profits from TechSoup
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The health check app may not help me here because even though it comes up, I can't remember the password to log in with.
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The plan with this one machine was to do a clean install from a thumb drive.
You can make a bootable thumb drive using the instructions here on microsoft.com:
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
You'll still want to run the Health Check app BEFORE attempting to install Windows 11, just to make sure it will install.
https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11
You'll still want to run the Health Check app BEFORE attempting to install Windows 11, just to make sure it will install.
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Ok, I booted it using the boot media downloaded from Microsoft as EC suggested.
It does boot but did give a "media driver" error with no specific information and the only option is to exit the installation.
How do I run the Health Check app when I am at the pre-windows installation stage?
It does boot but did give a "media driver" error with no specific information and the only option is to exit the installation.
How do I run the Health Check app when I am at the pre-windows installation stage?
You'll want to run the Health Check app BEFORE attempting to install Windows 11.
In other words - boot back into Windows 10 (or whatever OS this computer had before).
Then download and run the Health Check from the old version of Windows.
If the Health Check says your computer is not compatible then you won't be able to install it.
That's why you want to run the Health Check before you even attempt the upgrade.
In other words - boot back into Windows 10 (or whatever OS this computer had before).
Then download and run the Health Check from the old version of Windows.
If the Health Check says your computer is not compatible then you won't be able to install it.
That's why you want to run the Health Check before you even attempt the upgrade.
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Well that's what I am saying. I can't get into the other one.
So how do I run the health check on a computer that does not currently have any copy of Windows installed on it?
So how do I run the health check on a computer that does not currently have any copy of Windows installed on it?
media driver missing means you have to go to the manufacturers website and download the drivers, extract and copy onto the installation media usb drive. you can then ADD drivers during the installation process in the select destination screen
Sorry, I missed your previous comment about not being able to log in.
Maybe try a different USB port on the computer or as David mentioned, you may need to find, extract and copy the driver to the USB thumb drive. Thinking you'd have to do this on another computer if you can't boot into the PC you're trying to upgrade.
Maybe try a different USB port on the computer or as David mentioned, you may need to find, extract and copy the driver to the USB thumb drive. Thinking you'd have to do this on another computer if you can't boot into the PC you're trying to upgrade.
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Yes, ok, I completely missed the browse button on that window.
It would still be helpful to be able to run the health check outside of windows but it may not be possible.
It's an HP computer. Where would I get "media drivers"? I'm not sure what it means for me to download there.
It would still be helpful to be able to run the health check outside of windows but it may not be possible.
It's an HP computer. Where would I get "media drivers"? I'm not sure what it means for me to download there.
You can also download Windows 10 from Microsoft and install it on the computer from a USB stick. Once that is done, run the health check as suggested above.
if it's an HP computer then you'd go to HP's support/driver download page and download the USB driver for that computer.
If the driver package is a zip or exe file you'd have to extract the contents of that file into a folder. Then manually copy that folder to the USB thumb drive (the same one that has the WIndows 11 installer on it).
If you're able to boot from the Windows 11 USB thumb drive then don't worry about the Health Check. It will actually run as part of the installer. (In other words, the Windows 11 installer will check your hardware before installing)
If the driver package is a zip or exe file you'd have to extract the contents of that file into a folder. Then manually copy that folder to the USB thumb drive (the same one that has the WIndows 11 installer on it).
If you're able to boot from the Windows 11 USB thumb drive then don't worry about the Health Check. It will actually run as part of the installer. (In other words, the Windows 11 installer will check your hardware before installing)
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I don't see anything for "media driver" for an HP AS113W.
Is this a laptop or a desktop computer?
And it's made by HP?
I can't find any info on an HP AS113W
And it's made by HP?
I can't find any info on an HP AS113W
How old is this computer?
Did it come with Windows 7 or 8 and then was at some point updated to Windows 10?
Did it come with Windows 7 or 8 and then was at some point updated to Windows 10?
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It came with Windows Vista and was upgraded to Windows 8.
I think I upgraded the memory also.
It has been sitting around for years.
It is a desktop computer.
It's not really relevant to the question though regarding downloading that driver or with regard to running the PC health check on any system that does not have Windows installed.
The model of this computer is really irrelevant which is why I left it out initially.
I think I upgraded the memory also.
It has been sitting around for years.
It is a desktop computer.
It's not really relevant to the question though regarding downloading that driver or with regard to running the PC health check on any system that does not have Windows installed.
The model of this computer is really irrelevant which is why I left it out initially.
I have very very very little hope this computer is anywhere close to the spec to run Windows 11.
I guess we should have started with this question.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
I guess we should have started with this question.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
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EC, thank you!
I just now noticed what you said about the Windows 11 installer containing the health check. Thank you for that.
Now it's just the driver package that I need to find for that computer.
I am not finding it. What are your thoughts?
I just now noticed what you said about the Windows 11 installer containing the health check. Thank you for that.
Now it's just the driver package that I need to find for that computer.
I am not finding it. What are your thoughts?
I can't remember the password to log in with.If that is the real problem, and the reason why you want to upgrade to W11, try removing the password instead. I have used the Lazesoft password recovery tool with success on a couple of PCs.
If that fails, as has been mentioned above, the chances of upgrading a Vista PC to W11 are virtually zero
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My question has to do with the "media driver". That's where I am stuck at the moment
a pc from Vista era will normally have a ram limit of 4 Gb, and a slow cpu that does not meet w11 criteria
to be sure, post the exact model
desktops : HP Desktop PCs - How Do I Find My Model Number or Product Number? | HP® Customer Support
to be sure, post the exact model
desktops : HP Desktop PCs - How Do I Find My Model Number or Product Number? | HP® Customer Support
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As mentioned previously, It is an HP Pavilion as113w, but installation compatibility has nothing to do with where I am stuck at the moment.
Where I am stuck now has to do with finding the "media driver" for any version of Windows on this PC.
That's where I am stuck at the moment.
Where can I get any Windows version of "media driver" for this HP Pavilion model as113w to test?
Where I am stuck now has to do with finding the "media driver" for any version of Windows on this PC.
That's where I am stuck at the moment.
Where can I get any Windows version of "media driver" for this HP Pavilion model as113w to test?
Do you have a link to the HP support site that shows available downloads specifically for that model computer? I went to hp support website and it found nothing when I searched for AS113W. Are you sure that's the model number?
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Yes, I couldn't find it there either. It is on a sticker on the computer. That is the model.
If this is your computer...
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-22-a100-all-in-one-desktop-pc-series-touch/8499728/model/8888619
...then do this:
1. Click the [+] icon below the 'Detect My Drivers' button
2. Click on the [+] icon next to Driver-Chipset
3. Select AMD or Intel (depending on which processor you have in that PC)
4. Click the Download link
If you get a pop-up recommending that you use the download assistant click 'No thanks, I will download manually'
5. Once the file has downloaded you do NOT want to double-click on it. Instead you want to extract the contents of the file using a freeware app called 7-zip. (go to https://7-zip.org and download and install the program). After 7-zip is installed go back to the exe file you downloaded from the HP website, RIGHT-click on it and select 7-zip > Extract to "sp74490".
6. This will create a folder having the exact same name as the exe file you downloaded
7. Insert your thumb drive into the computer and then manually copy this folder to the USB thumb drive
8. After it copies, try using that thumb drive to boot into the Windows installer. If/when you get to the Media Driver issue look for a browse button. Browse to that folder on the USB drive.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-22-a100-all-in-one-desktop-pc-series-touch/8499728/model/8888619
...then do this:
1. Click the [+] icon below the 'Detect My Drivers' button
2. Click on the [+] icon next to Driver-Chipset
3. Select AMD or Intel (depending on which processor you have in that PC)
4. Click the Download link
If you get a pop-up recommending that you use the download assistant click 'No thanks, I will download manually'
5. Once the file has downloaded you do NOT want to double-click on it. Instead you want to extract the contents of the file using a freeware app called 7-zip. (go to https://7-zip.org and download and install the program). After 7-zip is installed go back to the exe file you downloaded from the HP website, RIGHT-click on it and select 7-zip > Extract to "sp74490".
6. This will create a folder having the exact same name as the exe file you downloaded
7. Insert your thumb drive into the computer and then manually copy this folder to the USB thumb drive
8. After it copies, try using that thumb drive to boot into the Windows installer. If/when you get to the Media Driver issue look for a browse button. Browse to that folder on the USB drive.
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I'll try that tomorrow but I will have to do it from a different computer because I don't have access to Windows on the Pavilion.
I can't find any info on the Pavilion AS113. Does this laptop have a recovery partition on the hard disk? That is what should be used to rebuild a laptop. You press a key early in the boot sequence to load it.
Have a look on the back of the laptop to see if you can find a model number. That should let us figure out what you can do with it.
Have a look on the back of the laptop to see if you can find a model number. That should let us figure out what you can do with it.
in many cases HP hides the model number under the batterycan you post a picture of the podel number?
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I feel so stupid. I'm so sorry. I had to take a picture of it before I realized that I did in fact have the wrong number. It is A6113W but even that one shows no results.
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Thanks to EC for this link here.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-22-a100-all-in-one-desktop-pc-series-touch/8499728/model/8888619.
It has an Intel chipset so I will try that chipset driver to resolve the "media driver" issue.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-22-a100-all-in-one-desktop-pc-series-touch/8499728/model/8888619.
It has an Intel chipset so I will try that chipset driver to resolve the "media driver" issue.
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All the files in the folders below were unique so I was able to pull them out into one and setup doesn't see any of them as compatable.
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I got into the old Windows 8 administrator account on this HP Pavilion A6113W computer using the Lazesoft password reset tool recommended above by hdhondt, so I am logged into the administrator account on the computer and can also see the thumb drive and the Windows PC Health Check Tool recommended by EC.
I want to run it from within Windows 8 now, but the filename is Microsoft.Windows.PCHealth
I'm hoping that the Health Check Tool might allow me to at least more closely identify the "media driver" that the Windows 11 installation seems to think is missing.
I want to run it from within Windows 8 now, but the filename is Microsoft.Windows.PCHealth
I'm hoping that the Health Check Tool might allow me to at least more closely identify the "media driver" that the Windows 11 installation seems to think is missing.
try this page for drivers Official HP® Drivers and Software Download | HP® Customer Support
but as isaid - i guess it is much too old for win11 - it dates from 2007
but as isaid - i guess it is much too old for win11 - it dates from 2007
Don't run the Health Check from the USB. Go to the Microsoft website and download it from there:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the Get Windows 11 button.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the Get Windows 11 button.
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You can't because although Windows comes up, I have not connected it to a network.
Download it from another computer, copy it to the thumb drive.
The one you download from microsoft website will be an msi or exe file, which you can run on Windows 8.
The one you download from microsoft website will be an msi or exe file, which you can run on Windows 8.
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The filename is Microsoft.Windows.PCHealth
It looks like this link does produce a file with an MSI file extension https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp.
Still testing...
It looks like this link does produce a file with an MSI file extension https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp.
Still testing...
When I go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11 and click on the link https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp (as suggested above), it tries to download a .MSI file. Not sure where you're finding the .msix file, but that one should work.
Do not use the msix file on the Windows 11 install media.
Download the Health Check from the link that I sent you.
Download the Health Check from the link that I sent you.
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Agreed,
It looks like this link does produce a file with an MSI file extension https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp.
Still testing...
It looks like this link does produce a file with an MSI file extension https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp.
Still testing...
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What is it you hope to get from Windows 11 that Windows 10 won't give you?
I would agree with the others that it is highly unlikely that a computer built for Windows Vista will reliably work on Windows 11. It may work with Windows 10 (with enough RAM), but it may not perform well.
I would agree with the others that it is highly unlikely that a computer built for Windows Vista will reliably work on Windows 11. It may work with Windows 10 (with enough RAM), but it may not perform well.
Windows 11 has strict hardware requirements - some you can bypass, others not so easily.
If your computer can run Windows 11 then you can upgrade for free.
From each computer, download and run the Windows PC Health Check app. It will can your computer and tell you if it will work with Windows 11. You can get to it from the link at the bottom of this page:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11