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Strange time setting on Windows 11 Computer

It started off what I have some workstations that aren't syncing time with the DC. If you look at the time settings the ntp server is Local CMOS Clock and the sync now button is greyed out.


So... I disjoined the domain. At that point the ntp was "europe.pool.ntp.org time.windows.com"


So I changed the registry and made it just time.windows.com


Now everything looks right but when I click on "Sync Now" I get the blue circle for 3-4 minutes and it fails.


Internet works fine. Has anyone seen this before?

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Personally I've found the responsiveness of the  NTP / time servers at windows.com to be unreliable at best.
I've had issues where system times were off by hours because of it.

I generally use pool.ntp.org -- https://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html 

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Been there done that :) Still fails
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NTP relies on UDP packets of a specific type.  If your network firewall is blocking NTP UDP packets then syncing won't occur.

An NTP request should sync or time out within 10 seconds.  If the water wheel is spinning for more than 30 seconds there's something configured drastically wrong.
This is a domain network with 55 workstations. Of those 55, 50 are using the DC and are fine. 5 are hosed and using  Local CMOS Clock. I have disjoined the domain and turned off the Windows Firewall. The source changes to time.windows.com but still fails. If fails no matter what source I use.

Yes something is wrong.
Have you verified the following?

Computer set to automatically sync?
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Date & Time set to set time automatically?
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Windows Time Service Running and set to Automatic (or Automatic - Delayed)
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Check them all. I somehow lucked in to getting the above Date and Time screen only once (with the Internet Time). Now sure how I did it. When I open Date and Time in Control Panel it looks like:

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Now sure how I did it.

Right click on the Date / Time on the bottom right of your task bar
Click on Adjust Date / Time

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Nope. That give me what I am use to seeing but not the above screen:

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Which above screen there are several?

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This one?
Hold on...

I think I see the cause of your issue
I thought this might be the case

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It appears the system has group policies in place which are getting in the way
The above screen that has the "Internet Time" tab. I have only tripped across that once.

As far a the "some settings are managed" I have tried setting the source to the DC via GPO. It is a remnant. 
The above screen that has the "Internet Time" tab. I have only tripped across that once.

Control Panel - Date/Time
Control Panel => Date and Time yields:

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no internet time tab..........

Have you rebooted the PC since making changes? .. You mentioned you left the domain...

If this PC is no longer joined to your domain and you're still seeing indications of policy settings being in force,
The only thing I can think of is group policies and/or registry changes getting in the way
I have rebooted after making changes. I would think if it were a group policy that all 55 workstations would be having the same issue. No matter what I set the time sources to a w32tm /config /syncfromflags:DOMHIER /update
sets the source to Local CMOS Clock. 
I would think if it were a group policy that all 55 workstations would be having the same issue.

I don't disagree, unless it's on only the affected PC(s). The screenshot indicating that some settings are being managed does seem to support the theory.

Or alternately some sort of file corruption.
Is the desired end to find out what the problem is, or to solve it?

If the desired end is to solve the problem, clone one of the workstations that is operating properly onto the 5 that are not.  Adjust the licensing, etc. for those workstations as required.  This should not take more than one hour per system.  time :== money; and using 8 hours investigating an issue that may not recur is uneconomic if cloning the systems will fix it in 5.
I would like to find out what is causing the issue and correct it.
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